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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The [2,3,5]-[[Just intonation subgroups|subgroup]] comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3&gt;. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. [[36edo]] is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, [[72edo]], [[77edo]] or [[118edo]] might be preferred.  
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The [2,3,5]-[[Just intonation subgroups|subgroup]] comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3&gt;. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. [[36edo]] is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, [[72edo]], [[77edo]] or [[118edo]] might be preferred.  


7-limit minimax
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==Full seven limit children==
==Full seven limit children==
To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified [[Normal lists|normal comma list]], which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period.
To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified [[Normal lists|normal comma list]], which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Gamelismic clan&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The [2,3,5]-&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20intonation%20subgroups"&gt;subgroup&lt;/a&gt; comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3&amp;gt;. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36edo"&gt;36edo&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo"&gt;77edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/118edo"&gt;118edo&lt;/a&gt; might be preferred. &lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Gamelismic clan&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:70:&amp;lt;img id=&amp;quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;Table of Contents&amp;quot; src=&amp;quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;amp;h=16&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:70 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:71: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:71 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:72: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Miracle"&gt;Miracle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:72 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:73: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:73 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:74: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:74 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:75: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:75 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:76: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:76 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:77: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:77 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:78: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Rodan"&gt;Rodan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:78 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:79: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:79 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:80: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:80 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:81: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:81 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:82: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:82 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:83: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Valentine"&gt;Valentine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:83 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:84: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:84 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:85: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:85 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:86: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Unidec"&gt;Unidec&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:86 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:87: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:87 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:88: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:88 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:89: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:89 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:90: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:90 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:91: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Hemithirds"&gt;Hemithirds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:91 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:92: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:92 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:93: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:93 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:94: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Tritikleismic"&gt;Tritikleismic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:94 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:95: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:95 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:96: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:96 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:97: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:97 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:98: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Superkleismic"&gt;Superkleismic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:98 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:99: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:99 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:100: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:100 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:101: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Gorgo"&gt;Gorgo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:101 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:102: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:102 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:103: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Lemba"&gt;Lemba&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:103 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:104: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:104 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:105: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Gidorah"&gt;Gidorah&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:105 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:106: --&gt;
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The [2,3,5]-&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20intonation%20subgroups"&gt;subgroup&lt;/a&gt; comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3&amp;gt;. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36edo"&gt;36edo&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo"&gt;77edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/118edo"&gt;118edo&lt;/a&gt; might be preferred. &lt;br /&gt;
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7-limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
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To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt;, which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period.&lt;br /&gt;
To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt;, which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Commas&lt;/a&gt;: 1029/1024, 225/224&lt;br /&gt;