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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The [2,3,5]-[[Just intonation subgroups|subgroup]] comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3>. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. [[36edo]] is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, [[72edo]], [[77edo]] or [[118edo]] might be preferred. | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc|flat]] | ||
The [2,3,5]-[[Just intonation subgroups|subgroup]] comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3>. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. [[36edo]] is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, [[72edo]], [[77edo]] or [[118edo]] might be preferred. | |||
7-limit minimax | 7-limit minimax | ||
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==Full seven limit children== | ==Full seven limit children== | ||
To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified [[Normal lists|normal comma list]], which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period. | To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified [[Normal lists|normal comma list]], which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period. | ||
=Miracle= | =Miracle= | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Gamelismic clan</title></head><body>The [2,3,5]-<a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20intonation%20subgroups">subgroup</a> comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3&gt;. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. <a class="wiki_link" href="/36edo">36edo</a> is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, <a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo">72edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo">77edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/118edo">118edo</a> might be preferred. <br /> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Gamelismic clan</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:70:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:70 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:71: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:71 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:72: --> | <a href="#Miracle">Miracle</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:72 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:73: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:73 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:74: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:74 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:75: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:75 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:76: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:76 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:77: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:77 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:78: --> | <a href="#Rodan">Rodan</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:78 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:79: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:79 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:80: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:80 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:81: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:81 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:82: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:82 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:83: --> | <a href="#Valentine">Valentine</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:83 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:84: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:84 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:85: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:85 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:86: --> | <a href="#Unidec">Unidec</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:86 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:87: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:87 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:88: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:88 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:89: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:89 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:90: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:90 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:91: --> | <a href="#Hemithirds">Hemithirds</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:91 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:92: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:92 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:93: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:93 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:94: --> | <a href="#Tritikleismic">Tritikleismic</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:94 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:95: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:95 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:96: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:96 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:97: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:97 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:98: --> | <a href="#Superkleismic">Superkleismic</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:98 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:99: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:99 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:100: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:100 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:101: --> | <a href="#Gorgo">Gorgo</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:101 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:102: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:102 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:103: --> | <a href="#Lemba">Lemba</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:103 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:104: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:104 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:105: --> | <a href="#Gidorah">Gidorah</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:105 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:106: --> | ||
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The [2,3,5]-<a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20intonation%20subgroups">subgroup</a> comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo |-10 1 0 3&gt;. For any member of the clan, and for the gamelismic temperament itself, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)^3 * 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten the both fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. <a class="wiki_link" href="/36edo">36edo</a> is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, <a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo">72edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo">77edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/118edo">118edo</a> might be preferred. <br /> | |||
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To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a>, which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period.<br /> | To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified <a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a>, which is often a 5-limit comma. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15536 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 1029/1024, 225/224<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 1029/1024, 225/224<br /> | ||