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If factors of two are eliminated, the simplest possible triad is (1):(3):5:7:(9), with 1, 3 and 9 in parentheses as they're all tritave-equivalent to 1. Hence, 3:5:7 can be viewed as the fundamental consonant triad of no-twos music. The linear temperament that best approximates these chords in the moderate complexity range is the Bohlen-Pierce linear temperament eliminating 245/243, which has a no-twos mapping of [&lt;1 1 2|, &lt;0 2 -1|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator which is a sharp 9/7 of 440.488 cents. It possesses [[@MOSScales|MOS]] of the forms 4L1s (pentatonic) and 4L5s (nonatonic), and larger MOS of size 13, 17, 30, 43, 56, 69 and 82. This temperament serves a function analogous to meantone in the 5-limit.
If factors of two are eliminated, the simplest possible triad is (1):(3):5:7:(9), with 1, 3 and 9 in parentheses as they're all tritave-equivalent to 1. Hence, 3:5:7 can be viewed as the fundamental consonant triad of no-twos music. The linear temperament that best approximates these chords in the moderate complexity range is the Bohlen-Pierce linear temperament eliminating 245/243, which has a no-twos mapping of [&lt;1 1 2|, &lt;0 2 -1|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator which is a sharp 9/7 of 440.488 cents. It possesses [[@MOSScales|MOS]] of the forms 4L1s (pentatonic) and 4L5s (nonatonic), and larger MOS of size 13, 17, 30, 43, 56, 69 and 82. This temperament serves a function analogous to meantone in the 5-limit.


At higher complexities, the rank two 3.5.7 temperament tempering out 16875/16807 called [[Canopus]] begins to predominate. This has a mapping [&lt;1 3 3|, &lt;0 -5 -4|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator a slightly flat 7/5 at 581.512 cents. This has MOS of size 3, 7, 10, 13, 23, 36, etc, with the 36 note MOS being particularly even.
At higher complexities, the rank two 3.5.7 temperament tempering out 16875/16807 called [[Canopus]] begins to predominate. This has a mapping [&lt;1 3 3|, &lt;0 -5 -4|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator a slightly flat 7/5 at 581.512 cents. This has MOS of size 3, 4, 7, 10, 13, 23, 36, etc, with the 36 note MOS being particularly even.
 
The other no twos rank two temperament which 13edt "supports" is [[Arcturus]], which takes an ~5:3 as a generator. I speak advisedly of 13edt supporting this temperament because the smallest proper and decently low-error MOS of it is a 2L 11s triskaidecatonic scale. However, if you do not mind having a smeary 5, you will need only a 2L 7s (nonatonic) scale to make an understandable rendition of it.


Among the EDTs tempering out 245/243, 13EDT stands out. An apt analogy can be drawn with EDOs supporting meantone: 4EDT and 9EDT are to BP what 5EDO and 7EDO are to meantone. However, in contrast to meantone, the simplest EDO supporting the BP nonatonic scale - 13EDT, the traditional tempered BP scale - is the most accurate and lowest in tuning error until 56EDT. However, there are many EDTs supporting BP temperament which also support extensions to higher-limit temperaments; in particular 2, 3, and 4 times 13 in the form of 26EDT, 39EDT and 52EDT as well as 56EDT. For tempering out 16875/16807, 13EDT again stands out, though much better accuracy can be found in more complex divisions such as 114EDT or 127EDT. All of this explains the focus on 13EDT to the exclusion of other EDTs among practitioners of the art of nonoctave composition, but it must be noted that the analysis is only valid if consideration is confined to the 7-limit, which is exactly analogous to confining it to the 5-limit with EDOs. There's a whole other world out there which has not been much explored.
Among the EDTs tempering out 245/243, 13EDT stands out. An apt analogy can be drawn with EDOs supporting meantone: 4EDT and 9EDT are to BP what 5EDO and 7EDO are to meantone. However, in contrast to meantone, the simplest EDO supporting the BP nonatonic scale - 13EDT, the traditional tempered BP scale - is the most accurate and lowest in tuning error until 56EDT. However, there are many EDTs supporting BP temperament which also support extensions to higher-limit temperaments; in particular 2, 3, and 4 times 13 in the form of 26EDT, 39EDT and 52EDT as well as 56EDT. For tempering out 16875/16807, 13EDT again stands out, though much better accuracy can be found in more complex divisions such as 114EDT or 127EDT. All of this explains the focus on 13EDT to the exclusion of other EDTs among practitioners of the art of nonoctave composition, but it must be noted that the analysis is only valid if consideration is confined to the 7-limit, which is exactly analogous to confining it to the 5-limit with EDOs. There's a whole other world out there which has not been much explored.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;edt&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;See also Heinz Bohlen's work:&lt;br /&gt;
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  If factors of two are eliminated, the simplest possible triad is (1):(3):5:7:(9), with 1, 3 and 9 in parentheses as they're all tritave-equivalent to 1. Hence, 3:5:7 can be viewed as the fundamental consonant triad of no-twos music. The linear temperament that best approximates these chords in the moderate complexity range is the Bohlen-Pierce linear temperament eliminating 245/243, which has a no-twos mapping of [&amp;lt;1 1 2|, &amp;lt;0 2 -1|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator which is a sharp 9/7 of 440.488 cents. It possesses &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales" target="_blank"&gt;MOS&lt;/a&gt; of the forms 4L1s (pentatonic) and 4L5s (nonatonic), and larger MOS of size 13, 17, 30, 43, 56, 69 and 82. This temperament serves a function analogous to meantone in the 5-limit.&lt;br /&gt;
  If factors of two are eliminated, the simplest possible triad is (1):(3):5:7:(9), with 1, 3 and 9 in parentheses as they're all tritave-equivalent to 1. Hence, 3:5:7 can be viewed as the fundamental consonant triad of no-twos music. The linear temperament that best approximates these chords in the moderate complexity range is the Bohlen-Pierce linear temperament eliminating 245/243, which has a no-twos mapping of [&amp;lt;1 1 2|, &amp;lt;0 2 -1|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator which is a sharp 9/7 of 440.488 cents. It possesses &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales" target="_blank"&gt;MOS&lt;/a&gt; of the forms 4L1s (pentatonic) and 4L5s (nonatonic), and larger MOS of size 13, 17, 30, 43, 56, 69 and 82. This temperament serves a function analogous to meantone in the 5-limit.&lt;br /&gt;
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At higher complexities, the rank two 3.5.7 temperament tempering out 16875/16807 called &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Canopus"&gt;Canopus&lt;/a&gt; begins to predominate. This has a mapping [&amp;lt;1 3 3|, &amp;lt;0 -5 -4|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator a slightly flat 7/5 at 581.512 cents. This has MOS of size 3, 7, 10, 13, 23, 36, etc, with the 36 note MOS being particularly even.&lt;br /&gt;
At higher complexities, the rank two 3.5.7 temperament tempering out 16875/16807 called &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Canopus"&gt;Canopus&lt;/a&gt; begins to predominate. This has a mapping [&amp;lt;1 3 3|, &amp;lt;0 -5 -4|] and a pure-tritaves TE generator a slightly flat 7/5 at 581.512 cents. This has MOS of size 3, 4, 7, 10, 13, 23, 36, etc, with the 36 note MOS being particularly even.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other no twos rank two temperament which 13edt &amp;quot;supports&amp;quot; is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Arcturus"&gt;Arcturus&lt;/a&gt;, which takes an ~5:3 as a generator. I speak advisedly of 13edt supporting this temperament because the smallest proper and decently low-error MOS of it is a 2L 11s triskaidecatonic scale. However, if you do not mind having a smeary 5, you will need only a 2L 7s (nonatonic) scale to make an understandable rendition of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Among the EDTs tempering out 245/243, 13EDT stands out. An apt analogy can be drawn with EDOs supporting meantone: 4EDT and 9EDT are to BP what 5EDO and 7EDO are to meantone. However, in contrast to meantone, the simplest EDO supporting the BP nonatonic scale - 13EDT, the traditional tempered BP scale - is the most accurate and lowest in tuning error until 56EDT. However, there are many EDTs supporting BP temperament which also support extensions to higher-limit temperaments; in particular 2, 3, and 4 times 13 in the form of 26EDT, 39EDT and 52EDT as well as 56EDT. For tempering out 16875/16807, 13EDT again stands out, though much better accuracy can be found in more complex divisions such as 114EDT or 127EDT. All of this explains the focus on 13EDT to the exclusion of other EDTs among practitioners of the art of nonoctave composition, but it must be noted that the analysis is only valid if consideration is confined to the 7-limit, which is exactly analogous to confining it to the 5-limit with EDOs. There's a whole other world out there which has not been much explored.&lt;br /&gt;
Among the EDTs tempering out 245/243, 13EDT stands out. An apt analogy can be drawn with EDOs supporting meantone: 4EDT and 9EDT are to BP what 5EDO and 7EDO are to meantone. However, in contrast to meantone, the simplest EDO supporting the BP nonatonic scale - 13EDT, the traditional tempered BP scale - is the most accurate and lowest in tuning error until 56EDT. However, there are many EDTs supporting BP temperament which also support extensions to higher-limit temperaments; in particular 2, 3, and 4 times 13 in the form of 26EDT, 39EDT and 52EDT as well as 56EDT. For tempering out 16875/16807, 13EDT again stands out, though much better accuracy can be found in more complex divisions such as 114EDT or 127EDT. All of this explains the focus on 13EDT to the exclusion of other EDTs among practitioners of the art of nonoctave composition, but it must be noted that the analysis is only valid if consideration is confined to the 7-limit, which is exactly analogous to confining it to the 5-limit with EDOs. There's a whole other world out there which has not been much explored.&lt;br /&gt;
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