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The name ''armotonic'' is in reference to [[Armodue theory]], as it applies to the 7L 2s scale in 16edo.

Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. ~~Additionally~~, the ~~term~~ ''superdiatonic'' has ~~had earlier uses for other things than just~~ 7L 2s, ~~usually~~ the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:

Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. Despite this, the name ''superdiatonic'' has seen some precedent of use on the wiki to refer to an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern, although it has had earlier use to refer to the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:

* From the page [[altered pentad]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to meantone[12], corresponding to 7L 5s:

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<blockquote>''For starters, you might want to mess around with what's called "[[porcupine]]" temperament in [[22edo|22-EDO]]. The base diatonic-sized scale is (as steps out of 22-EDO) 4 3 3 3 3 3 3, and you can chromatically alter anything in that scale you want by 1 step out of 22. For instance, if you flat the 7, you get the scale 4 3 3 3 3 2 4, which is nice because it has a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord in it. There's another "'''superdiatonic'''" scale at 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 which you can morph the above into if you want, and a 15-note chromatic scale at 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2; feel free to not stick dogmatically to these exact scales but to change them as you desire.''</blockquote>What 7L 2s and 5L 2s ''do'' share in common is 7L 2s has two extra large steps compared to 5L 2s, and can be generalized to mosses of the form (5+2''k'')L 2s, with increasingly ''flat'' fifth-like intervals for their generators.

~~Despite this~~, the name ''superdiatonic'' ~~has seen some precedent of use on~~ the ~~wiki~~ to ~~refer~~ to ~~an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern~~, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it~~. However, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to~~.

Due to these concerns, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it.

====On the term ''diatonic''====

In TAMNAMS, ''diatonic'' exclusively refers to 5L 2s. This is because while diatonic has accrued a variety of exact meanings over time, it has a clear choice of referent when talking about MOS scales: 5L 2s with an octave or tempered-octave period.

In TAMNAMS, ''diatonic'' exclusively refers to 5L 2s. This is because while the term ''diatonic'' has accrued a variety of exact meanings over time, both within and outside the contexts of xenharmonic music theory, it has a clear choice of referent when talking about MOS scales: 5L 2s with an octave or tempered-octave period.

===Name changes and former names===

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|[[7L 3s]]||dicotonic

| dicoid (current)

|August 2022||Altered to signify ''~~dicot~~'' as an exotemperament.

|August 2022||Altered to signify ''dichotic'' as an exotemperament.

|-

|[[8L 2s]]||dimanic

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 The name ''armotonic'' is in reference to [[Armodue theory]], as it applies to the 7L 2s scale in 16edo.
-Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. Additionally, the term ''superdiatonic'' has had earlier uses for other things than just 7L 2s, usually the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:
+Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. Despite this, the name ''superdiatonic'' has seen some precedent of use on the wiki to refer to an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern, although it has had earlier use to refer to the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:
 * From the page [[altered pentad]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to meantone[12], corresponding to 7L 5s:
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 <blockquote>''For starters, you might want to mess around with what's called "[[porcupine]]" temperament in [[22edo|22-EDO]]. The base diatonic-sized scale is (as steps out of 22-EDO) 4 3 3 3 3 3 3, and you can chromatically alter anything in that scale you want by 1 step out of 22. For instance, if you flat the 7, you get the scale 4 3 3 3 3 2 4, which is nice because it has a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord in it. There's another "'''superdiatonic'''" scale at 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 which you can morph the above into if you want, and a 15-note chromatic scale at 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2; feel free to not stick dogmatically to these exact scales but to change them as you desire.''</blockquote>What 7L 2s and 5L 2s ''do'' share in common is 7L 2s has two extra large steps compared to 5L 2s, and can be generalized to mosses of the form (5+2''k'')L 2s, with increasingly ''flat'' fifth-like intervals for their generators.
-Despite this, the name ''superdiatonic'' has seen some precedent of use on the wiki to refer to an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it. However, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to.
+Due to these concerns, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it.
 ====On the term ''diatonic''====
-In TAMNAMS, ''diatonic'' exclusively refers to 5L 2s. This is because while diatonic has accrued a variety of exact meanings over time, it has a clear choice of referent when talking about MOS scales: 5L 2s with an octave or tempered-octave period.
+In TAMNAMS, ''diatonic'' exclusively refers to 5L 2s. This is because while the term ''diatonic'' has accrued a variety of exact meanings over time, both within and outside the contexts of xenharmonic music theory, it has a clear choice of referent when talking about MOS scales: 5L 2s with an octave or tempered-octave period.
 ===Name changes and former names===
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 |[[7L 3s]]||dicotonic
 | dicoid (current)
-|August 2022||Altered to signify ''dicot'' as an exotemperament.
+|August 2022||Altered to signify ''dichotic'' as an exotemperament.
 |-
 |[[8L 2s]]||dimanic