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The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Pajara derives from 64/63 and is a popular and well-known choice. Diaschismic adds 2097152/2066715 to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy. Keen adds 2240/2187, echidna 1728/1715 and shrutar 245/243, the sensamagic comma. The pajara, diaschismic and keen keep the same 1/2 octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as [[36_35|36/35]], the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7.
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Pajara derives from 64/63 and is a popular and well-known choice. Diaschismic adds 2097152/2066715 to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy. Keen adds 2240/2187, echidna 1728/1715 and shrutar 245/243, the sensamagic comma. The pajara, diaschismic and keen keep the same 1/2 octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as [[36_35|36/35]], the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7.


===Pajara===
==Pajara==
Pajara, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -4 -11 -12 2|| is closely associated with 22et (not to mention [[Paul Erlich]]) but other tunings are possible. The 1/2 octave period serves as both a [[10_7|10/7]] and a [[7_5|7/5]]. Aside from 22et, 34 with the val &lt;34 54 79 96| and 56 with the val &lt;56 89 130 158| are are interesting alternatives, with more accpetable fifths, and a tetrad which is more clearly a dominant seventh. As such, they are closer to the tuning of 12et and of common practice Western music in general, while retaining the distictiveness of a sharp fifth.
Pajara, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -4 -11 -12 2|| is closely associated with 22et (not to mention [[Paul Erlich]]) but other tunings are possible. The 1/2 octave period serves as both a [[10_7|10/7]] and a [[7_5|7/5]]. Aside from 22et, 34 with the val &lt;34 54 79 96| and 56 with the val &lt;56 89 130 158| are are interesting alternatives, with more accpetable fifths, and a tetrad which is more clearly a dominant seventh. As such, they are closer to the tuning of 12et and of common practice Western music in general, while retaining the distictiveness of a sharp fifth.


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EDOs: 22, 34, 56
EDOs: 22, 34, 56


====11-limit====
===11-limit===
Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 99/98
Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 99/98


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EDOs: 22, 34, 56, 146
EDOs: 22, 34, 56, 146


===Diaschismic===
==Diaschismic==
A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds 126/125 or 5120/5103 to the set of commas, and it can also be called 46&amp;58. However described, diaschismic has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -16 -11 -31 -26||, with a 1/2 period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo|58et]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7_4|7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58et.
A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds 126/125 or 5120/5103 to the set of commas, and it can also be called 46&amp;58. However described, diaschismic has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -16 -11 -31 -26||, with a 1/2 period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo|58et]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7_4|7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58et.


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EDOs: 46, 58, 162
EDOs: 46, 58, 162


====11-limit====
===11-limit===
Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891
Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891


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EDOs: 46, 58, 104, 162
EDOs: 46, 58, 104, 162


====13-limit====
===13-limit===
Commas: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 2048/2025
Commas: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 2048/2025


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EDOs: [[46edo]], [[58edo]], [[162edo]]
EDOs: [[46edo]], [[58edo]], [[162edo]]


====17-limit====
===17-limit===
Commas: 126/125, 136/135, 176/175, 196/195, 256/255
Commas: 126/125, 136/135, 176/175, 196/195, 256/255


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EDOs: 46, 58, 104
EDOs: 46, 58, 104


===Keen===
==Keen==
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;56 temperament. [[78edo|78et]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;56 temperament. [[78edo|78et]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.


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EDOs: 22, 56, 78
EDOs: 22, 56, 78


====11-limit====
===11-limit===
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215


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EDOs: 22, 56, 78
EDOs: 22, 56, 78


===Echidna===
==Echidna==
Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &lt;&lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;58 temperament. [[58edo|58et]] or [[80edo|80et]] make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &lt;138 219 321 388|.
Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &lt;&lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;58 temperament. [[58edo|58et]] or [[80edo|80et]] make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &lt;138 219 321 388|.


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2|, &lt;0 3 -6 5|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2|, &lt;0 3 -6 5|]
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218
Badness: 0.0580


====11-limit====
===11-limit===
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539


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EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218
Badness: 0.0260


====13-limit====
===13-limit===
Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539
Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16|]
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138
Badness: 0.0237


====17-limit====
===17-limit===
Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539
Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19 6|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16 3|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19 6|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16 3|]
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 494
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 494
Badness: 0.0203
==Echidnic==
Commas: 686/675, 1029/1024
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 234.492
Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6|, &lt;0 3 -6 1|]
EDOs: 10, 36, 46, 286, 332
Badness: 0.0722
===11-limit===
Commas: 385/384, 441/444, 686/675
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 235.096
Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6 3|, &lt;0 3 -6 1 10|]
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148, 342
Badness: 0.0451
===13-limit===
Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 385/384, 441/440
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 235.088
Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6 3 7|, &lt;0 3 -6 1 10 1|]
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148, 194, 342
Badness: 0.0289


===Shrutar===
==Shrutar==
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. [[68edo]] makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. [[68edo]] makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.


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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250


====11-limit====
===11-limit===
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120


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The second comma of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt; defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Pajara derives from 64/63 and is a popular and well-known choice. Diaschismic adds 2097152/2066715 to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy. Keen adds 2240/2187, echidna 1728/1715 and shrutar 245/243, the sensamagic comma. The pajara, diaschismic and keen keep the same 1/2 octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36_35"&gt;36/35&lt;/a&gt;, the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7.&lt;br /&gt;
The second comma of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt; defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Pajara derives from 64/63 and is a popular and well-known choice. Diaschismic adds 2097152/2066715 to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy. Keen adds 2240/2187, echidna 1728/1715 and shrutar 245/243, the sensamagic comma. The pajara, diaschismic and keen keep the same 1/2 octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36_35"&gt;36/35&lt;/a&gt;, the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pajara, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -4 -11 -12 2|| is closely associated with 22et (not to mention &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Paul%20Erlich"&gt;Paul Erlich&lt;/a&gt;) but other tunings are possible. The 1/2 octave period serves as both a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_7"&gt;10/7&lt;/a&gt; and a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_5"&gt;7/5&lt;/a&gt;. Aside from 22et, 34 with the val &amp;lt;34 54 79 96| and 56 with the val &amp;lt;56 89 130 158| are are interesting alternatives, with more accpetable fifths, and a tetrad which is more clearly a dominant seventh. As such, they are closer to the tuning of 12et and of common practice Western music in general, while retaining the distictiveness of a sharp fifth.&lt;br /&gt;
Pajara, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -4 -11 -12 2|| is closely associated with 22et (not to mention &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Paul%20Erlich"&gt;Paul Erlich&lt;/a&gt;) but other tunings are possible. The 1/2 octave period serves as both a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_7"&gt;10/7&lt;/a&gt; and a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_5"&gt;7/5&lt;/a&gt;. Aside from 22et, 34 with the val &amp;lt;34 54 79 96| and 56 with the val &amp;lt;56 89 130 158| are are interesting alternatives, with more accpetable fifths, and a tetrad which is more clearly a dominant seventh. As such, they are closer to the tuning of 12et and of common practice Western music in general, while retaining the distictiveness of a sharp fifth.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 34, 56&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 34, 56&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 34, 56, 146&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 34, 56, 146&lt;br /&gt;
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A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds 126/125 or 5120/5103 to the set of commas, and it can also be called 46&amp;amp;58. However described, diaschismic has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -16 -11 -31 -26||, with a 1/2 period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58et&lt;/a&gt; provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58et.&lt;br /&gt;
A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds 126/125 or 5120/5103 to the set of commas, and it can also be called 46&amp;amp;58. However described, diaschismic has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -16 -11 -31 -26||, with a 1/2 period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58et&lt;/a&gt; provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58et.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 46, 58, 162&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 58, 162&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 46, 58, 104, 162&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 58, 104, 162&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 2048/2025&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 2048/2025&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/162edo"&gt;162edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/162edo"&gt;162edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 126/125, 136/135, 176/175, 196/195, 256/255&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 126/125, 136/135, 176/175, 196/195, 256/255&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 46, 58, 104&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 58, 104&lt;br /&gt;
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Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;amp;56 temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/78edo"&gt;78et&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.&lt;br /&gt;
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;amp;56 temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/78edo"&gt;78et&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 56, 78&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 56, 78&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 56, 78&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 56, 78&lt;br /&gt;
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Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;amp;58 temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58et&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo"&gt;80et&lt;/a&gt; make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &amp;lt;138 219 321 388|.&lt;br /&gt;
Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;amp;58 temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58et&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo"&gt;80et&lt;/a&gt; make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &amp;lt;138 219 321 388|.&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 2|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 5|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0580&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 218&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0260&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 2 12 19|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0237&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 494&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138, 494&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0203&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 686/675, 1029/1024&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 234.492&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 2 7 6|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 36, 46, 286, 332&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0722&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 385/384, 441/444, 686/675&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 235.096&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 2 7 6 3|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 1 10|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148, 342&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0451&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 385/384, 441/440&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 235.088&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 2 7 6 3 7|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 1 10 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148, 194, 342&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0289&lt;br /&gt;
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Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.&lt;br /&gt;
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120&lt;br /&gt;
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