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==Shrutar==  
=Shrutar=
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. [[68edo]] makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. [[68edo]] makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.


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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250


===11-limit===  
==11-limit==
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410


EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410</pre></div>
==13-limit==
 
==17-limit==
 
==19-limit==
Commas:  121/120, 136/135, 154/154, 176/175, 196/195, 343/342
 
POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.730
 
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6 -10|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2 17|]
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182
Badness: 0.0175</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Diaschismic family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo"&gt;34edo&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning choice, with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo"&gt;56edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo"&gt;80edo&lt;/a&gt; being other possibilities. Both &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Diaschismic family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo"&gt;34edo&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning choice, with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo"&gt;56edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo"&gt;80edo&lt;/a&gt; being other possibilities. Both &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.&lt;br /&gt;
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.&lt;br /&gt;
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By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings.&lt;br /&gt;
By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 52.680&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 52.680&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas:  121/120, 136/135, 154/154, 176/175, 196/195, 343/342&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.730&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6 -10|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2 17|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0175&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>