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="neutral diatonic"=  
="Neutral diatonic"=  


7-edo divides the 1200-cent [[octave]] into 7 equal parts, making its smallest interval [[cent|171.428¢]], or the seventh root of 2. It is the fourth [[prime numbers|prime]] edo, after [[2edo]], [[3edo]] and [[5edo]].
7-edo divides the 1200-cent [[octave]] into 7 equal parts, making its smallest interval [[cent|171.428¢]], or the seventh root of 2. It is the fourth [[prime numbers|prime]] edo, after [[2edo]], [[3edo]] and [[5edo]].


Equi-heptatonic scales are used in non-western music in African cultures and it has been speculated in "Indian music:history and structure", that the Indian three-sruti interval of 165 cents is close enough to be mistaken for 171 cents. (or 1.71 semitones).
Equal-heptatonic scales are used in non-western music in African cultures as well as an intregal part of early Thai and early Chinese music. It has been speculated in "Indian music:history and structure", that the Indian three-sruti interval of 165 cents is close enough to be mistaken for 171 cents. (or 1.71 semitones).
7-tet can be thought of as result of stacking seven 11/9s on top of each other, and then tempering to remove the comma (2^-2 3^-14 11^7).
7-tet can be thought of as result of stacking seven 11/9s on top of each other, and then tempering to remove the comma (2^-2 3^-14 11^7). As a temperament, William Lynch gives it the name "Neutron[7]" just as the whole tone scale of 12 ET is known as ""
 
Typically, 7-edo exists as the tuning for pentatonic scales in traditional thai music with the other two pitches acting as auxiliary tones. However, it can be used as an interesting diatonic scale choice as well in tunings such as 14 EDO or 21 EDO.  


The seventh of 7-edo is almost exactly the 29th harmonic ([[29_16|29/16]]), which can have a very agreeable sound with harmonic timbres. However it also finds itself nested between ratios such as 20/11 and 9/5, which gives it considerably higher [[harmonic entropy]] than [[harmonic seventh|7/4]], a much simpler overtone seventh.
The seventh of 7-edo is almost exactly the 29th harmonic ([[29_16|29/16]]), which can have a very agreeable sound with harmonic timbres. However it also finds itself nested between ratios such as 20/11 and 9/5, which gives it considerably higher [[harmonic entropy]] than [[harmonic seventh|7/4]], a much simpler overtone seventh.
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**interval name** || **The "neighborhood" of just intervals** ||
|| 0 || 0.0 || unison / prime || exactly 1/1 ||
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|| 1 || 171.429,  
|| 1 || 171.429,
51°25'43" || second || 6.424 c, 1°55'38" from Ptolemy (neutral) second 11/10
51°25'43" || second || 6.424 c, 1°55'38" from Ptolemy (neutral) second 11/10
3.215 c, 57'53" from second 54/49
3.215 c, 57'53" from second 54/49
-10.9&lt;span style="line-height: 1.5;"&gt; c, -3°17'33"76 from (Didymus) major second (small whole tone) 10/9&lt;/span&gt; ||
-10.9&lt;span style="line-height: 1.5;"&gt; c, -3°17'33"76 from (Didymus) major second (small whole tone) 10/9&lt;/span&gt; ||
|| 2 || 342.857,  
|| 2 || 342.857,
102°51'26" || third || -4.551 c, -1°21'55" from neutral third 11/9 ||
102°51'26" || third || -4.551 c, -1°21'55" from neutral third 11/9 ||
|| 3 || 514.286,  
|| 3 || 514.286,
154°17'9" || fourth || 16.241 c, 4°52'20" from just fourth 4/3 (498.045 c)
154°17'9" || fourth || 16.241 c, 4°52'20" from just fourth 4/3 (498.045 c)
-5.265 c, -1°34'47" from wide fourth 27/20 ||
-5.265 c, -1°34'47" from wide fourth 27/20 ||
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=Related scales=  
=Related scales=  
* Related in a lateral way to traditional Thai music.
* Related in a lateral way to traditional Thai music. Subset of 14 EDO and 21 EDO.
==Notation==  
==Notation==  
* Notatable on a five-line staff without accidentals.
* Notatable on a five-line staff without accidentals.
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7-edo divides the 1200-cent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave"&gt;octave&lt;/a&gt; into 7 equal parts, making its smallest interval &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;171.428¢&lt;/a&gt;, or the seventh root of 2. It is the fourth &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/prime%20numbers"&gt;prime&lt;/a&gt; edo, after &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2edo"&gt;2edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3edo"&gt;3edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5edo"&gt;5edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
7-edo divides the 1200-cent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave"&gt;octave&lt;/a&gt; into 7 equal parts, making its smallest interval &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;171.428¢&lt;/a&gt;, or the seventh root of 2. It is the fourth &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/prime%20numbers"&gt;prime&lt;/a&gt; edo, after &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2edo"&gt;2edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3edo"&gt;3edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5edo"&gt;5edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Equi-heptatonic scales are used in non-western music in African cultures and it has been speculated in &amp;quot;Indian music:history and structure&amp;quot;, that the Indian three-sruti interval of 165 cents is close enough to be mistaken for 171 cents. (or 1.71 semitones).&lt;br /&gt;
Equal-heptatonic scales are used in non-western music in African cultures as well as an intregal part of early Thai and early Chinese music. It has been speculated in &amp;quot;Indian music:history and structure&amp;quot;, that the Indian three-sruti interval of 165 cents is close enough to be mistaken for 171 cents. (or 1.71 semitones).&lt;br /&gt;
7-tet can be thought of as result of stacking seven 11/9s on top of each other, and then tempering to remove the comma (2^-2 3^-14 11^7).&lt;br /&gt;
7-tet can be thought of as result of stacking seven 11/9s on top of each other, and then tempering to remove the comma (2^-2 3^-14 11^7). As a temperament, William Lynch gives it the name &amp;quot;Neutron[7]&amp;quot; just as the whole tone scale of 12 ET is known as &amp;quot;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Typically, 7-edo exists as the tuning for pentatonic scales in traditional thai music with the other two pitches acting as auxiliary tones. However, it can be used as an interesting diatonic scale choice as well in tunings such as 14 EDO or 21 EDO. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The seventh of 7-edo is almost exactly the 29th harmonic (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/29_16"&gt;29/16&lt;/a&gt;), which can have a very agreeable sound with harmonic timbres. However it also finds itself nested between ratios such as 20/11 and 9/5, which gives it considerably higher &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20entropy"&gt;harmonic entropy&lt;/a&gt; than &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20seventh"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt;, a much simpler overtone seventh.&lt;br /&gt;
The seventh of 7-edo is almost exactly the 29th harmonic (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/29_16"&gt;29/16&lt;/a&gt;), which can have a very agreeable sound with harmonic timbres. However it also finds itself nested between ratios such as 20/11 and 9/5, which gives it considerably higher &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20entropy"&gt;harmonic entropy&lt;/a&gt; than &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20seventh"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt;, a much simpler overtone seventh.&lt;br /&gt;
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51°25'43&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
51°25'43&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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102°51'26&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
102°51'26&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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154°17'9&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Related in a lateral way to traditional Thai music. Subset of 14 EDO and 21 EDO.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc3"&gt;&lt;a name="Related scales-Notation"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 --&gt;Notation&lt;/h2&gt;
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  There is no distinction between Major or Minor; each pitch class is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
  There is no distinction between Major or Minor; each pitch class is unique.&lt;br /&gt;