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Starting at 3 periods, mosdescendant names apply only to the corresponding n-wood scale (triwood, tetrawood, pentawood, etc), where the names of descendants are based on names for single-period mosses up to 5 notes and thereby limited to mosses with 5n notes; any descendants after that are referred as to '''n-wood descendants'''. Note that this means there are only two named 3rd-generation mosses from nL ns, rather than the usual eight. The cap of 5n notes mirrors that of TAMNAMS; currently, the names for single-period mosses up to 5 notes may also refer to non-octave periods and therefore (for our purposes) multi-period octave scales.
Starting at 3 periods, mosdescendant names apply only to n-wood scales (triwood, tetrawood, pentawood, etc), where the names of mosdescendants are based on names for single-period mosses up to 5 notes and thereby limited to mosdescendants with 5n notes; any descendants after that are referred as to '''n-wood descendants'''.


Currently, tetrawood and pentawood (4L 4s and 5L 5s) only have pages for their immediate children (2L 4s and 8L 4s, and 5L 10s and 10L 5s respectively), so although it may make more sense to limit mosdescendant names for n-wood scales to the immediate children (nL 2ns and 2nL ns), names for n-wood scales up to 5n notes are shown anyway for completeness.
Note that this means there are only two named 3rd-generation mosses from nL ns, rather than the usual eight. The cap of 5n notes mirrors that of TAMNAMS; currently, the names for single-period mosses up to 5 notes may also refer to non-octave periods and therefore (for our purposes) multi-period octave scales. The table outlines possible names for n-wood descendants for triwood, tetrawood, pentawood, and, in the general case, n-wood.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+Possible mosdescendant names for mosses with 3 periods or more
|+Possible mosdescendant names for mosses with 3 periods or more
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| rowspan="5" |[[3L 3s]]
| rowspan="5" |[[3L 3s]]
| rowspan="5" |triwood
| rowspan="5" |'''triwood'''
| rowspan="3" |[[3L 6s]]
| rowspan="3" |[[3L 6s]]
| rowspan="3" |tcherepnin
| rowspan="3" |tcherepnin
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| rowspan="5" |[[4L 4s]]
| rowspan="5" |[[4L 4s]]
| rowspan="5" |tetrawood
| rowspan="5" |'''tetrawood'''
| rowspan="3" |[[4L 8s]]
| rowspan="3" |[[4L 8s]]
| rowspan="3" |quadantrial
| rowspan="3" |quadantrial
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|-
|-
| rowspan="5" |[[5L 5s]]
| rowspan="5" |[[5L 5s]]
| rowspan="5" |pentawood
| rowspan="5" |'''pentawood'''
| rowspan="3" |[[5L 10s]]
| rowspan="3" |[[5L 10s]]
| rowspan="3" |quinantrial
| rowspan="3" |quinantrial
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|-
| rowspan="5" |nL ns
| rowspan="5" |nL ns
| rowspan="5" |n-wood
| rowspan="5" |'''n-wood'''
| rowspan="3" |nL 2ns
| rowspan="3" |nL 2ns
| rowspan="3" |n-antrial
| rowspan="3" |n-antrial
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|n-pedal
|n-pedal
| rowspan="5" |A numeric prefix may be used instead, such as hexawood instead of 6-wood.
| rowspan="5" |A numeric prefix may be used instead, such as hexawood instead of 6-wood.
When in doubt, prefix names with n-.
When in doubt, prefix names for n-period mosses with n-.
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|-
|4nL ns
|4nL ns
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=== Naming mosdescendant scales beyond 3 generations ===
=== Naming mosdescendant scales beyond 3 generations ===
Each generation has twice as many mosdescendants as the last, so rather than try to name every possible descendant, mosdescendants more than 3 generations from a given parent mos can be referred to how many generations away it is. Mosschismic scales are 3rd mosdescendants, so after that are 4th-mosdescendants, 5th-mosdescendants, and so on. The algorithms below shows how to find how many generations away a mos xL ys is from another scale.
Each generation has twice as many mosdescendants as the last, so rather than try to name every possible descendant, mosdescendants more than 3 generations from a given parent mos may be referred to how many generations away it is. Mosschismic scales are 3rd mosdescendants, so after that are 4th-mosdescendants, 5th-mosdescendants, and so on. The algorithms below shows how to find how many generations away a mos xL ys is from another scale.


* For single-period and 2-period scales: finding a parent mos zL ws for the mosdescendant xL ys, where x and y are either coprime (have a common factor of 1) or have a common factor of 2:
* For single-period and 2-period scales: finding a parent mos zL ws for the mosdescendant xL ys, where x and y are either coprime (have a common factor of 1) or have a common factor of 2:
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|"S" for '''s'''harp.
|"S" for '''s'''harp.
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=== Examples ===
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+Names for descendant scales of 5L 2s
|+Names for descendant scales of 5L 2s (diatonic)
! colspan="2" |Diatonic scale
! colspan="2" |Diatonic scale
! colspan="2" |Chromatic scales
! colspan="2" |Chromatic scales
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|s-schismic
|s-schismic
|5A 22B
|5A 22B
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|+Names for descendant scales for 5L 3s (oneirotonic)
! colspan="2" |Oneirotonic scale
! colspan="2" |Oneirochromatic scales
! colspan="2" |Oneiroenharmonic scales
! colspan="2" |Oneiroschismic scales
!4th oneirodescendants
|-
!Steps
!Name
!Steps
!Name
!Steps
!Name
!Steps
!Name
!Steps
|-
| rowspan="8" |[[8L 5s]]
| rowspan="8" |oneirotonic
| rowspan="4" |[[8L 5s]]
| rowspan="4" |m-oneirochromatic
| rowspan="2" |[[8L 13s]]
| rowspan="2" |f-oneiroenharmonic
|[[8L 21s]]
|f-oneiroschismic
|8A 29B
|-
|[[21L 8s]]
|a-oneiroschismic
|21A 29B
|-
| rowspan="2" |[[13L 8s]]
| rowspan="2" |m-oneiroenharmonic
|[[21L 13s]]
|u-oneiroschismic
|21A 34B
|-
|[[13L 21s]]
|m-oneiroschismic
|13A 34B
|-
| rowspan="4" |[[5L 8s]]
| rowspan="4" |p-oneirochromatic
| rowspan="2" |[[13L 5s]]
| rowspan="2" |p-oneiroenharmonic
|[[13L 18s]]
|p-oneiroschismic
|13A 31B
|-
|[[18L 13s]]
|q-oneiroschismic
|18A 31B
|-
| rowspan="2" |[[5L 13s]]
| rowspan="2" |s-oneiroenharmonic
|[[18L 5s]]
|r-oneiroschismic
|18A 23B
|-
|[[5L 18s]]
|s-oneiroschismic
|5A 23B
|}
|}


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* Some names are too long (in my opinion).
* Some names are too long (in my opinion).


The choice of names are not perfect and some may have issues. Some names have multiple suggestions. This section is meant to start a discussion on alternate names.
The choice of names are not perfect and some may have issues. Some names have multiple suggestions. This section is meant to start a discussion on alternate names. (This section also needs some rework.)
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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