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The [[5-limit]] parent [[comma]] of the '''meantone family''' is the Didymus or [[Wikipedia: syntonic comma|syntonic comma]], [[81/80]]. This is the one they all temper out. The period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval. | The [[5-limit]] parent [[comma]] of the '''meantone family''' is the Didymus or [[Wikipedia: syntonic comma|syntonic comma]], [[81/80]]. This is the one they all temper out. The period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval. | ||
== Meantone (12&19, 2.3.5) == | == Meantone (12&19, 2.3.5) == | ||
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{{see also| Meantone }} | {{see also| Meantone }} | ||
{{Wikipedia|Septimal meantone temperament}} | {{Wikipedia|Septimal meantone temperament}} | ||
The [[7/4]] of septimal meantone is the augmented sixth, C-A#, and other septimal intervals are [[7/6]], C-D#, the augmented second, [[7/5]], C-F#, the | The [[7/4]] of septimal meantone is the augmented sixth, C-A#, and other septimal intervals are [[7/6]], C-D#, the augmented second, [[7/5]], C-F#, the tritone, and [[21/16]], C-E#, the augmented third. Septimal meantone tempers out the common 7-limit commas [[126/125]] and [[225/224]] and in fact can be defined as the 7-limit temperament that tempers out any two of 81/80, 126/125 and 225/224. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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* 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [694.737, 700.000] | * 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [694.737, 700.000] | ||
[[Algebraic generator]]: Cybozem, the real root of 15''x''<sup>3</sup> - 10''x''<sup>2</sup> - 18, | [[Algebraic generator]]: Cybozem, the real root of 15''x''<sup>3</sup> - 10''x''<sup>2</sup> - 18, 503.4257 cents. The recurrence converges quickly. | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 12, 19, 31, 81, 112b, 143b }} | {{Val list|legend=1| 12, 19, 31, 81, 112b, 143b }} | ||
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* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [696.774, 700.000] | * 11-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [696.774, 700.000] | ||
Algebraic generator: Traverse, the positive real root of ''x''<sup>4</sup> + 2''x'' - 13, or | Algebraic generator: Traverse, the positive real root of ''x''<sup>4</sup> + 2''x'' - 13, or 696.9529 cents. | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 12, 19e, 31, 105, 136b, 167be, 198be }} | Vals: {{Val list| 12, 19e, 31, 105, 136b, 167be, 198be }} | ||
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* 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [692.308, 694.737] | * 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [692.308, 694.737] | ||
Algebraic generator: Squarto, the positive root of 8''x''<sup>2</sup> - 4''x'' - 9, at | Algebraic generator: Squarto, the positive root of 8''x''<sup>2</sup> - 4''x'' - 9, at 506.3239 cents, equal to (1 + sqrt (19))/4. | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 45 }} | {{Val list|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 45 }} | ||
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Mapping generators: ~7/5, ~16/11 | Mapping generators: ~7/5, ~16/11 | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.5303 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26, 50d }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26, 50d }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 -3 8 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 8 -1 5 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 -3 8 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 8 -1 5 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.5324 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26, 50d }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26, 50d }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 -3 8 2 6 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 8 -1 5 2 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 -3 8 2 6 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 8 -1 5 2 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.6558 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26 }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26 }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 -3 8 2 6 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 8 -1 5 2 6 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 -3 8 2 6 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 8 -1 5 2 6 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.6382 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26 }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24d, 26 }} | ||
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, | [[Comma list]]: 81/80, 300125/294912 | ||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 }}] | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 }}] | ||
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{{Multival|legend=1| 4 16 -10 16 -27 -68 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 4 16 -10 16 -27 -68 }} | ||
[[POTE generator]]: ~48/35 = | [[POTE generator]]: ~48/35 = 552.2206 | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 24, 26, 50, 126bcd, 176bcdd, 226bbcdd }} | {{Val list|legend=1| 24, 26, 50, 126bcd, 176bcdd, 226bbcdd }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.0929 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 5 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 5 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.1498 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 2 6 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 5 2 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 2 6 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 5 2 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.1579 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 2 6 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 5 2 6 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 2 1 -4 11 8 2 6 2 }}, {{val| 0 2 8 -5 -1 5 2 6 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/8 = | POTE generator: ~11/8 = 552.1196 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | Vals: {{Val list| 24, 26, 50 }} | ||
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Gencom mapping: [{{val|1 1 0 0 2}}, {{val|0 2 8 0 5}}] | Gencom mapping: [{{val|1 1 0 0 2}}, {{val|0 2 8 0 5}}] | ||
[[Gencom]]: [2 11/9; | [[Gencom]]: [2 11/9; 81/80 121/120] | ||
[[POTE generator]]: ~11/9 = | [[POTE generator]]: ~11/9 = 348.0938 | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 17c, 24, 31, 100e, 131bee }} | {{Val list|legend=1| 7, 17c, 24, 31, 100e, 131bee }} | ||
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Gencom mapping: [{{val|1 1 0 0 2 4}}, {{val|0 2 8 0 5 -1}}] | Gencom mapping: [{{val|1 1 0 0 2 4}}, {{val|0 2 8 0 5 -1}}] | ||
Gencom: [2 11/9; | Gencom: [2 11/9; 66/65 81/80 121/120] | ||
POTE generator: ~11/9 = | POTE generator: ~11/9 = 348.9155 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 7, 17c, 24, 31, 55, 86ef, 141ceff }} | Vals: {{Val list| 7, 17c, 24, 31, 55, 86ef, 141ceff }} | ||
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* 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~128/105 = [347.368, 350.000] | * 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~128/105 = [347.368, 350.000] | ||
[[Algebraic generator]]: Mohabis, real root of 3''x''<sup>3</sup> - 3''x''<sup>2</sup> - 1, | [[Algebraic generator]]: Mohabis, real root of 3''x''<sup>3</sup> - 3''x''<sup>2</sup> - 1, 348.6067 cents. Corresponding recurrence converges quickly. | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 24, 31 }} | {{Val list|legend=1| 7, 24, 31 }} | ||
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, | [[Comma list]]: 81/80, 5898240/5764801 | ||
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 5 12 7 }}, {{val| 0 -4 -16 -3 }}] | [[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 5 12 7 }}, {{val| 0 -4 -16 -3 }}] | ||
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[[POTE generator]]: ~8/7 = 232.193 | [[POTE generator]]: ~8/7 = 232.193 | ||
[[Algebraic generator]]: Rabrindanath, largest real root of ''x''<sup>8</sup> - 3''x''<sup>2</sup> + 1, or | [[Algebraic generator]]: Rabrindanath, largest real root of ''x''<sup>8</sup> - 3''x''<sup>2</sup> + 1, or 232.0774 cents. | ||
[[Minimax tuning]]: | [[Minimax tuning]]: | ||
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: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5 | : [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5 | ||
[[Algebraic generator]]: Sceptre2, the positive root of 9''x''<sup>2</sup> + ''x'' - 16, or (sqrt (577) - 1)/18, which is | [[Algebraic generator]]: Sceptre2, the positive root of 9''x''<sup>2</sup> + ''x'' - 16, or (sqrt (577) - 1)/18, which is 425.9311 cents. | ||
{{Val list|legend=1| 14c, 17c, 31 }} | {{Val list|legend=1| 14c, 17c, 31 }} | ||
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 8 6 7 9 }}, {{val| 0 -4 -16 -9 -10 -15 }}] | Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 8 6 7 9 }}, {{val| 0 -4 -16 -9 -10 -15 }}] | ||
POTE generator: ~9/7 = | POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.7516 | ||
Vals: {{Val list| 14cf, 17c, 31f }} | Vals: {{Val list| 14cf, 17c, 31f }} | ||