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: This revision was by author [[User:xenwolf|xenwolf]] and made on <tt>2010-05-04 03: | : This revision was by author [[User:xenwolf|xenwolf]] and made on <tt>2010-05-04 03:31:43 UTC</tt>.<br> | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">=18 Equal Divisions of the Octave= | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">=18 Equal Divisions of the Octave= | ||
AKA The Third-Tone System | AKA The Third-Tone System | ||
== == | ==Basic Properties== | ||
== | === Representations of Just Intervals === | ||
|| Degree || Cents || Nearest Ratio || Error (cents) || | || Degree || Cents || Nearest Ratio || Error (cents) || | ||
|| 0 || 0 || 1/1 || 0 || | || 0 || 0 || 1/1 || 0 || | ||
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18-EDO does not approximate the 3rd Harmonic at all, unless a >30¢-error is considered acceptable. This makes it unsuitable for rendering common-practice music. However, it does offer excellent approximations of 27/25, 9/8, 7/6, 17/14, 21/16, and 15/11 (and their respective reciprocal intervals), so it is still capable of playing consonant music; however, in order to access these consonances, one must take a considerably "non-common-practice" approach. | 18-EDO does not approximate the 3rd Harmonic at all, unless a >30¢-error is considered acceptable. This makes it unsuitable for rendering common-practice music. However, it does offer excellent approximations of 27/25, 9/8, 7/6, 17/14, 21/16, and 15/11 (and their respective reciprocal intervals), so it is still capable of playing consonant music; however, in order to access these consonances, one must take a considerably "non-common-practice" approach. | ||
=== Relationship to Other EDOs === | |||
18-EDO, aka the "third-tone" system, is related to [[12edo|12-tET]] by the whole-tone scale (which is [[6edo|6-EDO]]), since 18=6*3 and 12=6*2; hence a 12-tET "whole tone" is divided into 3 equal parts in 18-EDO. Since 18=9*2, 18-EDO contains two sets of [[9edo|9-EDO]], offset from each other by a third-tone. 18-EDO is related to [[13edo|13-EDO]], [[21edo|21-EDO]], [[23edo|23-EDO]], and [[28edo|28-EDO]] in that all are [[Father Temperament|"Father" temperaments]] (they temper out 16/15--the difference between a major third and perfect fourth). It is related to [[11edo|11-EDO]], [[15edo|15-EDO]], [[25edo|25-EDO]], and [[19edo|29-EDO]] in that they are all [[Amity Temperament|"Amity" temperaments]] ("Amity" is derived from the acronym of "Acute Minor Thirds", meaning a minor third sharper than 6/5 but still flatter than a neutral third). | 18-EDO, aka the "third-tone" system, is related to [[12edo|12-tET]] by the whole-tone scale (which is [[6edo|6-EDO]]), since 18=6*3 and 12=6*2; hence a 12-tET "whole tone" is divided into 3 equal parts in 18-EDO. Since 18=9*2, 18-EDO contains two sets of [[9edo|9-EDO]], offset from each other by a third-tone. 18-EDO is related to [[13edo|13-EDO]], [[21edo|21-EDO]], [[23edo|23-EDO]], and [[28edo|28-EDO]] in that all are [[Father Temperament|"Father" temperaments]] (they temper out 16/15--the difference between a major third and perfect fourth). It is related to [[11edo|11-EDO]], [[15edo|15-EDO]], [[25edo|25-EDO]], and [[19edo|29-EDO]] in that they are all [[Amity Temperament|"Amity" temperaments]] ("Amity" is derived from the acronym of "Acute Minor Thirds", meaning a minor third sharper than 6/5 but still flatter than a neutral third). | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>18edo</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="x18 Equal Divisions of the Octave"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->18 Equal Divisions of the Octave</h1> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>18edo</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="x18 Equal Divisions of the Octave"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->18 Equal Divisions of the Octave</h1> | ||
AKA The Third-Tone System<br /> | AKA The Third-Tone System<br /> | ||
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18-EDO does not approximate the 3rd Harmonic at all, unless a &gt;30¢-error is considered acceptable. This makes it unsuitable for rendering common-practice music. However, it does offer excellent approximations of 27/25, 9/8, 7/6, 17/14, 21/16, and 15/11 (and their respective reciprocal intervals), so it is still capable of playing consonant music; however, in order to access these consonances, one must take a considerably &quot;non-common-practice&quot; approach.<br /> | 18-EDO does not approximate the 3rd Harmonic at all, unless a &gt;30¢-error is considered acceptable. This makes it unsuitable for rendering common-practice music. However, it does offer excellent approximations of 27/25, 9/8, 7/6, 17/14, 21/16, and 15/11 (and their respective reciprocal intervals), so it is still capable of playing consonant music; however, in order to access these consonances, one must take a considerably &quot;non-common-practice&quot; approach.<br /> | ||
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< | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc3"><a name="x18 Equal Divisions of the Octave-Basic Properties-Relationship to Other EDOs"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 --> Relationship to Other EDOs </h3> | ||
18-EDO, aka the &quot;third-tone&quot; system, is related to <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12-tET</a> by the whole-tone scale (which is <a class="wiki_link" href="/6edo">6-EDO</a>), since 18=6*3 and 12=6*2; hence a 12-tET &quot;whole tone&quot; is divided into 3 equal parts in 18-EDO. Since 18=9*2, 18-EDO contains two sets of <a class="wiki_link" href="/9edo">9-EDO</a>, offset from each other by a third-tone. 18-EDO is related to <a class="wiki_link" href="/13edo">13-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/21edo">21-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/23edo">23-EDO</a>, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/28edo">28-EDO</a> in that all are <a class="wiki_link" href="/Father%20Temperament">&quot;Father&quot; temperaments</a> (they temper out 16/15--the difference between a major third and perfect fourth). It is related to <a class="wiki_link" href="/11edo">11-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/25edo">25-EDO</a>, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">29-EDO</a> in that they are all <a class="wiki_link" href="/Amity%20Temperament">&quot;Amity&quot; temperaments</a> (&quot;Amity&quot; is derived from the acronym of &quot;Acute Minor Thirds&quot;, meaning a minor third sharper than 6/5 but still flatter than a neutral third).<br /> | 18-EDO, aka the &quot;third-tone&quot; system, is related to <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12-tET</a> by the whole-tone scale (which is <a class="wiki_link" href="/6edo">6-EDO</a>), since 18=6*3 and 12=6*2; hence a 12-tET &quot;whole tone&quot; is divided into 3 equal parts in 18-EDO. Since 18=9*2, 18-EDO contains two sets of <a class="wiki_link" href="/9edo">9-EDO</a>, offset from each other by a third-tone. 18-EDO is related to <a class="wiki_link" href="/13edo">13-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/21edo">21-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/23edo">23-EDO</a>, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/28edo">28-EDO</a> in that all are <a class="wiki_link" href="/Father%20Temperament">&quot;Father&quot; temperaments</a> (they temper out 16/15--the difference between a major third and perfect fourth). It is related to <a class="wiki_link" href="/11edo">11-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15-EDO</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/25edo">25-EDO</a>, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">29-EDO</a> in that they are all <a class="wiki_link" href="/Amity%20Temperament">&quot;Amity&quot; temperaments</a> (&quot;Amity&quot; is derived from the acronym of &quot;Acute Minor Thirds&quot;, meaning a minor third sharper than 6/5 but still flatter than a neutral third).<br /> | ||
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Note: This list excludes scales found in 9-EDO.<br /> | Note: This list excludes scales found in 9-EDO.<br /> | ||
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Father Pentatonic: 4 4 3 4 3<br /> | Father Pentatonic: 4 4 3 4 3<br /> | ||
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Whole-Tone Scale: 3 3 3 3 3 3<br /> | Whole-Tone Scale: 3 3 3 3 3 3<br /> | ||
Bicycle: 4 4 1 4 4 1<br /> | Bicycle: 4 4 1 4 4 1<br /> | ||
Rice Hexatonic: 2 5 2 2 5 2<br /> | Rice Hexatonic: 2 5 2 2 5 2<br /> | ||
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Amity/Mish Heptatonic: 3 2 3 2 3 3 2<br /> | Amity/Mish Heptatonic: 3 2 3 2 3 3 2<br /> | ||
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Father Octatonic: 3 1 3 3 1 3 3 1<br /> | Father Octatonic: 3 1 3 3 1 3 3 1<br /> | ||
Rice Octatonic: 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2<br /> | Rice Octatonic: 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2<br /> | ||
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Biggie Decatonic: 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2<br /> | Biggie Decatonic: 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2<br /> | ||
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18-EDO is an ideal scale for the first-time refretter, because you can retain all the even-number frets from 12-tET--essentially 1/3 of your work is done for you!<br /> | 18-EDO is an ideal scale for the first-time refretter, because you can retain all the even-number frets from 12-tET--essentially 1/3 of your work is done for you!<br /> | ||
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The &quot;Father Octatonic&quot; scale maps very simply to a 6-string guitar tuned in &quot;reverse-standard&quot; tuning (tune using four 466.667¢ intervals, with one 533.333¢ interval between the 2nd and 3rd strings), making for a softer learning-curve than EDOs like 14, 16, or 21.</body></html></pre></div> | The &quot;Father Octatonic&quot; scale maps very simply to a 6-string guitar tuned in &quot;reverse-standard&quot; tuning (tune using four 466.667¢ intervals, with one 533.333¢ interval between the 2nd and 3rd strings), making for a softer learning-curve than EDOs like 14, 16, or 21.</body></html></pre></div> | ||