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8 octaves into 8 equal parts = 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 = Octave Progression | 8 octaves into 8 equal parts = 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 = Octave Progression | ||
9 octaves into 8 equal parts = 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 = Ninth Progression | 9 octaves into 8 equal parts = 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 = Ninth Progression | ||
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16 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val < 16 25 37 45 55 59 |.) | |||
||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || | |||
|| 135/128 || | -7 3 1 > || 92.18 || Major Chroma || Major Limma || Pelogic Comma || | |||
|| 648/625 || | 3 4 -4 > || 62.57 || Major Diesis || Diminished Comma || || | |||
|| 3125/3072 || | -10 -1 5 > || 29.61 || Small Diesis || Magic Comma || || | |||
|| 1212717/1210381 || | 23 6 -14 > || 3.34 || Vishnuzma || Semisuper || || | |||
|| 36/35 || | 2 2 -1 -1 > || 48.77 || Septimal Quarter Tone || || || | |||
|| 525/512 || | -9 1 2 1 > || 43.41 || Avicennma || Avicenna's Enharmonic Diesis || || | |||
|| 50/49 || | 1 2 -2 > || 34.98 || Tritonic Diesis || Jubilisma || || | |||
|| 64827/64000 || | -9 3 -3 4 > || 22.23 || Squalentine || || || | |||
|| 3125/3087 || | -2 5 -3 > || 21.18 || Gariboh || || || | |||
|| 126/125 || | 1 2 -3 1 > || 13.79 || Septimal Semicomma || Starling Comma || || | |||
|| 1029/1024 || | -10 1 0 3 > || 8.43 || Gamelisma || || || | |||
|| 6144/6125 || | 11 1 -3 -2 > || 5.36 || Porwell || || || | |||
|| 121/120 || | -3 -1 -1 2 > || 14.37 || Biyatisma || || || | |||
|| 176/175 || | 4 -2 -1 1 > || 9.86 || Valinorsma || || || | |||
|| 385/384 || | -7 -1 1 1 1 > || 4.50 || Keenanisma || || || | |||
|| 441/440 || | -3 2 -1 2 -1 > || 3.93 || Werckisma || || || | |||
|| 3025/3024 || | -4 -3 2 -1 2 > || 0.57 || Lehmerisma || || || | |||
=Hexadecaphonic Notation:= | =Hexadecaphonic Notation:= | ||
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[[@http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=660895&songID=7715803|Palestrina Morta, fantasia quasi una sonata]] by [[@http://fiale.tk|Fabrizio Fulvio Fausto Fiale]]</pre></div> | [[@http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=660895&songID=7715803|Palestrina Morta, fantasia quasi una sonata]] by [[@http://fiale.tk|Fabrizio Fulvio Fausto Fiale]]</pre></div> | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>16edo</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:12:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:12 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:13: --><a href="#Hexadecaphonic Octave Theory">Hexadecaphonic Octave Theory</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:13 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:14: --> | <a href="# | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>16edo</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:12:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:12 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:13: --><a href="#Hexadecaphonic Octave Theory">Hexadecaphonic Octave Theory</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:13 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:14: --> | <a href="#Commas">Commas</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:14 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:15: --> | <a href="#Hexadecaphonic Notation:">Hexadecaphonic Notation:</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:15 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:16: --> | <a href="#Armodue theory">Armodue theory</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:16 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:17: --> | <a href="#External links">External links</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:17 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:18: --> | <a href="#Compositions">Compositions</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:18 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:19: --> | ||
<!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 -->16-edo equal temperament is the division of the octave into sixteen narrow chromatic semitones each of 75 cents exactly. It is not especially good at representing most low-integer musical intervals, but it has a 7/4 which is six cents sharp, and a 5/4 which is eleven cents flat. Four steps of it gives the 300 cent minor third interval identical to that of 12-edo, giving it four diminished seventh chords exactly like those of 12-edo, and a diminished triad on each scale step.<br /> | <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 -->16-edo equal temperament is the division of the octave into sixteen narrow chromatic semitones each of 75 cents exactly. It is not especially good at representing most low-integer musical intervals, but it has a 7/4 which is six cents sharp, and a 5/4 which is eleven cents flat. Four steps of it gives the 300 cent minor third interval identical to that of 12-edo, giving it four diminished seventh chords exactly like those of 12-edo, and a diminished triad on each scale step.<br /> | ||
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In 16-tone, because of the 25 cent difference in the steps from 100 in 12-tone, a western &quot;twelve tone ear&quot; hears dissonance with more complexity and less familiarity than even 24-tone, yet within a more manageable number of tones and a strange familiarity - the diminished family - making 16-edo a truly xenharmonic system.<br /> | In 16-tone, because of the 25 cent difference in the steps from 100 in 12-tone, a western &quot;twelve tone ear&quot; hears dissonance with more complexity and less familiarity than even 24-tone, yet within a more manageable number of tones and a strange familiarity - the diminished family - making 16-edo a truly xenharmonic system.<br /> | ||
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If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (19/16, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad. The interval between the 28th &amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &quot;narrow fifth&quot;. Example on Goldsmith board: <!-- ws:start:WikiTextRemoteImageRule: | If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (19/16, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad. The interval between the 28th &amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &quot;narrow fifth&quot;. Example on Goldsmith board: <!-- ws:start:WikiTextRemoteImageRule:275:&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.ronsword.com/161928%20copy.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; title=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;height: 92px; width: 158px;&quot; /&gt; --><img src="http://www.ronsword.com/161928%20copy.jpg" alt="external image 161928%20copy.jpg" title="external image 161928%20copy.jpg" style="height: 92px; width: 158px;" /><!-- ws:end:WikiTextRemoteImageRule:275 -->Another voicing for this chord is 14:16:19, which features 19:14 as the outer interval (528.7 cents just, 525.0 cents in 16edo). A perhaps more consonant open voicing is 7:16:19.<br /> | ||
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In 16-edo diatonic scales are dissonant because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. The septimal semi diminished fourth can be more desirable. Perhaps using Moment of Symmetry Scales an alternative temperament families like the &quot;Anti-Diatonic&quot; Mavila (which reverses step sizes of diatonic), Diminished, Happy, Rice, Grumpy, Mosh, Magic, Lemba, Cynder, and Decatonic can be more interesting and suitable:<br /> | In 16-edo diatonic scales are dissonant because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. The septimal semi diminished fourth can be more desirable. Perhaps using Moment of Symmetry Scales an alternative temperament families like the &quot;Anti-Diatonic&quot; Mavila (which reverses step sizes of diatonic), Diminished, Happy, Rice, Grumpy, Mosh, Magic, Lemba, Cynder, and Decatonic can be more interesting and suitable:<br /> | ||
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8 octaves into 8 equal parts = 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 = Octave Progression<br /> | 8 octaves into 8 equal parts = 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 = Octave Progression<br /> | ||
9 octaves into 8 equal parts = 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 = Ninth Progression<br /> | 9 octaves into 8 equal parts = 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 = Ninth Progression<br /> | ||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc2"><a name="Hexadecaphonic Notation:"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Hexadecaphonic Notation:</h1> | 16 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val &lt; 16 25 37 45 55 59 |.)<br /> | ||
<table class="wiki_table"> | |||
<tr> | |||
<th>Comma<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
<th>Monzo<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
<th>Value (Cents)<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
<th>Name 1<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
<th>Name 2<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
<th>Name 3<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>135/128<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -7 3 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>92.18<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Major Chroma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Major Limma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Pelogic Comma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>648/625<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 3 4 -4 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>62.57<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Major Diesis<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Diminished Comma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>3125/3072<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -10 -1 5 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>29.61<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Small Diesis<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Magic Comma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>1212717/1210381<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 23 6 -14 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>3.34<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Vishnuzma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Semisuper<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>36/35<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 2 2 -1 -1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>48.77<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Septimal Quarter Tone<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>525/512<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -9 1 2 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>43.41<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Avicennma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Avicenna's Enharmonic Diesis<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>50/49<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 1 2 -2 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>34.98<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Tritonic Diesis<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Jubilisma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>64827/64000<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -9 3 -3 4 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>22.23<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Squalentine<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>3125/3087<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -2 5 -3 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>21.18<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Gariboh<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>126/125<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 1 2 -3 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>13.79<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Septimal Semicomma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Starling Comma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>1029/1024<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -10 1 0 3 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>8.43<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Gamelisma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>6144/6125<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 11 1 -3 -2 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>5.36<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Porwell<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>121/120<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -3 -1 -1 2 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>14.37<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Biyatisma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>176/175<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 4 -2 -1 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>9.86<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Valinorsma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>385/384<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -7 -1 1 1 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>4.50<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Keenanisma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>441/440<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -3 2 -1 2 -1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>3.93<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Werckisma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>3025/3024<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -4 -3 2 -1 2 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>0.57<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Lehmerisma<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
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16-EDO notation can be easy utilizing Goldsmith's Circle of keys, Nominals, and respective Notation. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for Wilson's Beta and Epsilon<br /> | 16-EDO notation can be easy utilizing Goldsmith's Circle of keys, Nominals, and respective Notation. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for Wilson's Beta and Epsilon<br /> | ||
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Sword, Ronald. &quot;Hexadecaphonic Scales for Guitar.&quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: Feb, 2010. (superfourth tuning).<br /> | Sword, Ronald. &quot;Hexadecaphonic Scales for Guitar.&quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: Feb, 2010. (superfourth tuning).<br /> | ||
Sword, Ronald. &quot;Esadekaphonic Scales for Guitar.&quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: April, 2009. (semi-diminished fourth tuning)<br /> | Sword, Ronald. &quot;Esadekaphonic Scales for Guitar.&quot; IAAA Press, UK-USA. First Ed: April, 2009. (semi-diminished fourth tuning)<br /> | ||