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=Intervals= | =Intervals= | ||
|| Degree || Cents | || Degree || Cents ||= Approximate | ||
Ratios* || Interval Names | Ratios* || Interval Names | ||
Just || Interval Names | Just || Interval Names | ||
Simplified || Interval | Simplified || Interval names | ||
major | with major wider | ||
|| 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || Unison || Unison || | than minor || Interval names, | ||
|| 1 || 75 | major narrower | ||
than minor || | |||
|| 2 || 150 | || 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || Unison || Unison || Unison || Unison || | ||
|| 1 || 75 ||= 28/27, 27/26 || Subminor 2nd || Minor Second || aug 1, dim 2nd || dim 1, aug 2nd || | |||
|| 3 || 225 | || 2 || 150 ||= 12/11, 35/32 || Neutral 2nd || Major Second || min 2nd || maj 2nd || | ||
|| 3 || 225 ||= 8/7 || Supermajor 2nd, | |||
Septimal Whole-Tone || Perfect Second || maj 2nd || | Septimal Whole-Tone || Perfect Second || maj 2nd || min 2nd || | ||
|| 4 || 300 | || 4 || 300 ||= 19/16, 32/27 || Minor 3rd || Minor Third || min 3rd || maj 3rd || | ||
|| 5 || 375 ||= 5/4, 26/21 || Major 3rd || Major Third || maj 3rd || min 3rd || | |||
|| 5 || 375 | || 6 || 450 ||= 13/10, 35/27 || Sub-4th, | ||
Supermajor 3rd || Minor Fourth || aug 3rd, dim 4th || dim 3rd, aug 4th || | |||
|| 6 || 450 | || 7 || 525 ||= 27/20, 52/35, 256/189 || Wide 4th || Major Fourth || perfect 4th || perfect 4th || | ||
|| 8 || 600 ||= 7/5, 10/7 || Tritone || Augmented fourth/ | |||
Supermajor 3rd || Minor Fourth || aug 3rd, dim 4th || | Diminished fifth || aug 4th, dim 5th || dim 4th, aug 5th || | ||
|| 7 || 525 | || 9 || 675 ||= 40/27, 35/26, 189/128 || Narrow 5th || Minor Fifth || perfect 5th || perfect 5th || | ||
|| 10 || 750 ||= 20/13, 54/35 || Super-5th, | |||
|| 8 || 600 | Subminor 6th || Major Fifth || aug 5th, dim 6th || dim 5th, aug 6th || | ||
|| 11 || 825 ||= 8/5, 21/13 || Minor 6th || Minor Sixth || min 6th || maj 6th || | |||
Diminished fifth || aug 4th, dim 5th || | || 12 || 900 ||= 27/16, 32/19 || Major 6th || Major Sixth || maj 6th || min 6th || | ||
|| 9 || 675 | || 13 || 975 ||= 7/4 || Subminor 7th, | ||
Septimal Minor 7th || Perfect Seventh || min 7th || maj 7th || | |||
|| 10 || 750 | || 14 || 1050 ||= 11/6, 64/35 || Neutral 7th || Minor Seventh || maj 7th || min 7th || | ||
|| 15 || 1125 ||= 27/14, 52/27 || Supermajor 7th || Major Seventh || aug 7th, dim 8ve || dim 7th, aug 8ve || | |||
Subminor 6th || Major Fifth || aug 5th, dim 6th || | || 16 || 1200 ||= 2/1 || Octave || Octave || perfect 8ve || perfect 8ve || | ||
|| 11 || 825 | |||
|| 12 || 900 | |||
|| 13 || 975 | |||
Septimal Minor 7th || Perfect Seventh || min 7th || | |||
|| 14 || 1050 | |||
|| 15 || 1125 | |||
|| 16 || 1200 | |||
*based on treating 16-EDO as a 2.5.7.13.19.27 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible. | *based on treating 16-EDO as a 2.5.7.13.19.27 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible. | ||
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=Commas= | =Commas= | ||
16 EDO [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes [[val]] < 16 25 37 45 55 59 | 16 EDO [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes [[val]] < 16 25 37 45 55 59 |.) | ||
||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || | ||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || | ||
||= 135/128 ||< | -7 3 1 > ||> 92.18 ||= Major Chroma ||= Major Limma ||= Pelogic Comma || | ||= 135/128 ||< | -7 3 1 > ||> 92.18 ||= Major Chroma ||= Major Limma ||= Pelogic Comma || | ||
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<td>Degree<br /> | <td>Degree<br /> | ||
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<td>Cents | <td>Cents<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">Approximate<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">Approximate<br /> | ||
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Simplified<br /> | Simplified<br /> | ||
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<td>Interval | <td>Interval names <br /> | ||
major | with major wider <br /> | ||
than minor<br /> | |||
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<td>Interval names,<br /> | |||
major narrower<br /> | |||
than minor<br /> | |||
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<td>Unison<br /> | <td>Unison<br /> | ||
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<td><br /> | <td>Unison<br /> | ||
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<td>Unison<br /> | |||
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<td>1<br /> | <td>1<br /> | ||
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<td>75 | <td>75<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">28/27, 27/26<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">28/27, 27/26<br /> | ||
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<td>aug 1, dim 2nd<br /> | <td>aug 1, dim 2nd<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>dim 1, aug 2nd<br /> | |||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>2<br /> | <td>2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>150 | <td>150<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">12/11, 35/32<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">12/11, 35/32<br /> | ||
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</td> | </td> | ||
<td>min 2nd<br /> | <td>min 2nd<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>maj 2nd<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>3<br /> | <td>3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>225 | <td>225<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">8/7<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">8/7<br /> | ||
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</td> | </td> | ||
<td>maj 2nd<br /> | <td>maj 2nd<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>min 2nd<br /> | |||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>4<br /> | <td>4<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>300 | <td>300<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">19/16, 32/27<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">19/16, 32/27<br /> | ||
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</td> | </td> | ||
<td>min 3rd<br /> | <td>min 3rd<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>maj 3rd<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>5<br /> | <td>5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>375 | <td>375<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">5/4, 26/21<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">5/4, 26/21<br /> | ||
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<td>maj 3rd<br /> | <td>maj 3rd<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>min 3rd<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>6<br /> | <td>6<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>450 | <td>450<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">13/10, 35/27<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">13/10, 35/27<br /> | ||
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<td>aug 3rd, dim 4th<br /> | <td>aug 3rd, dim 4th<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>dim 3rd, aug 4th<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>7<br /> | <td>7<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>525 | <td>525<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">27/20, 52/35, 256/189<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">27/20, 52/35, 256/189<br /> | ||
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<td>Major Fourth<br /> | <td>Major Fourth<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>perfect 4th<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>perfect 4th<br /> | <td>perfect 4th<br /> | ||
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<td>8<br /> | <td>8<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>600 | <td>600<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">7/5, 10/7<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">7/5, 10/7<br /> | ||
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<td>aug 4th, dim 5th<br /> | <td>aug 4th, dim 5th<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>dim 4th, aug 5th<br /> | |||
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<td>9<br /> | <td>9<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>675 | <td>675<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">40/27, 35/26, 189/128<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">40/27, 35/26, 189/128<br /> | ||
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<td>Minor Fifth<br /> | <td>Minor Fifth<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>perfect 5th<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>perfect 5th<br /> | <td>perfect 5th<br /> | ||
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<td>10<br /> | <td>10<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>750 | <td>750<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">20/13, 54/35<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">20/13, 54/35<br /> | ||
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<td>aug 5th, dim 6th<br /> | <td>aug 5th, dim 6th<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>dim 5th, aug 6th<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>11<br /> | <td>11<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>825 | <td>825<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">8/5, 21/13<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">8/5, 21/13<br /> | ||
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<td>min 6th<br /> | <td>min 6th<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>maj 6th<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>12<br /> | <td>12<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>900 | <td>900<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">27/16, 32/19<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">27/16, 32/19<br /> | ||
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<td>maj 6th<br /> | <td>maj 6th<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>min 6th<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>13<br /> | <td>13<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>975 | <td>975<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">7/4<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">7/4<br /> | ||
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<td>min 7th<br /> | <td>min 7th<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>maj 7th<br /> | |||
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<td>14<br /> | <td>14<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1050 | <td>1050<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">11/6, 64/35<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">11/6, 64/35<br /> | ||
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<td>maj 7th<br /> | <td>maj 7th<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>min 7th<br /> | |||
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<td>15<br /> | <td>15<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1125 | <td>1125<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">27/14, 52/27<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">27/14, 52/27<br /> | ||
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<td>aug 7th, dim 8ve<br /> | <td>aug 7th, dim 8ve<br /> | ||
</td> | |||
<td>dim 7th, aug 8ve<br /> | |||
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<td>16<br /> | <td>16<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1200 | <td>1200<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">2/1<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">2/1<br /> | ||
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<td>Octave<br /> | <td>Octave<br /> | ||
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<td>perfect 8ve<br /> | |||
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<td>perfect 8ve<br /> | <td>perfect 8ve<br /> | ||
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Another interesting approach can include two interwoven <a class="wiki_link" href="/8edo">8-EDO</a> scales (narrow 12/11 neutral seconds). There are two major seventh intervals, a harmonic seventh at step 13\16, a 7/4 ratio approximation, sharp by 6.174 cents, followed by an undecimal 11/6 ratio or neutral seventh (which is mapped in 16's <strong>Mavila</strong> as a major seventh). If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (<a class="wiki_link" href="/19_16">19/16</a>, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad (pictured below).<br /> | Another interesting approach can include two interwoven <a class="wiki_link" href="/8edo">8-EDO</a> scales (narrow 12/11 neutral seconds). There are two major seventh intervals, a harmonic seventh at step 13\16, a 7/4 ratio approximation, sharp by 6.174 cents, followed by an undecimal 11/6 ratio or neutral seventh (which is mapped in 16's <strong>Mavila</strong> as a major seventh). If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (<a class="wiki_link" href="/19_16">19/16</a>, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad (pictured below).<br /> | ||
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The interval between the 28th &amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &quot;narrow fifth&quot;. Another voicing for this chord is 14:16:19, which features 19:14 as the outer interval (528.7 cents just, 525.0 cents in 16edo). A perhaps more consonant open voicing is 7:16:19.<br /> | The interval between the 28th &amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &quot;narrow fifth&quot;. Another voicing for this chord is 14:16:19, which features 19:14 as the outer interval (528.7 cents just, 525.0 cents in 16edo). A perhaps more consonant open voicing is 7:16:19.<br /> | ||
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16-EDO notation can be easy utilizing Goldsmith's Circle of keys, nominals, and respective notation. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for Wilson's Beta and Epsilon additions to A-G. Armodue of Italy uses a 4-line staff for 16-EDO.<br /> | 16-EDO notation can be easy utilizing Goldsmith's Circle of keys, nominals, and respective notation. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for Wilson's Beta and Epsilon additions to A-G. Armodue of Italy uses a 4-line staff for 16-EDO.<br /> | ||
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In 16-EDO diatonic scales are dissonant and &quot;shimmery&quot; because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. Scales like the Harmonic Minor scale in 16-EDO require 4 step sizes.<br /> | In 16-EDO diatonic scales are dissonant and &quot;shimmery&quot; because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. Scales like the Harmonic Minor scale in 16-EDO require 4 step sizes.<br /> | ||
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This Layout places Mavila[7] on the black keys and Mavila[9] on the white keys. As you can see, flats are higher than naturals and sharps are lower.<br /> | This Layout places Mavila[7] on the black keys and Mavila[9] on the white keys. As you can see, flats are higher than naturals and sharps are lower.<br /> | ||
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16 EDO <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempers out</a> the following <a class="wiki_link" href="/comma">comma</a>s. (Note: This assumes <a class="wiki_link" href="/val">val</a> &lt; 16 25 37 45 55 59 | 16 EDO <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempers out</a> the following <a class="wiki_link" href="/comma">comma</a>s. (Note: This assumes <a class="wiki_link" href="/val">val</a> &lt; 16 25 37 45 55 59 |.)<br /> | ||