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<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2> | <h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2> | ||
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//The 14-tone scale presents a new situation: while one might use ordinary sharps and flats in addition to conventional naturals for the notes of the 7-tone-equal temperament, it would be misleading and confusing to do so, because there is a 7-tone circle of fifths (admittedly quite distorted) already notatable and nameable as F C G D A E B in the usual manner. But there is no 14-tone circle of fifths. There is simply a second set of 7 fifths in a circle which does not intersect the with the first set. Thus is we think of B-flat and B, or B-natural and F-sharp, the 14-tone-system interval would NOT be a fifth of that system and would not sound like one, since B F would be the very same kind of distorted fifth that C G or A E happens to be in 7 or 14. Our suggestion is to call the new notes of 14, the second set of 7, F* C* G* D* A* E* B*, and use asterisks or arrows or whatever you please on the staff. Or just number the tones as for 13.// | //The 14-tone scale presents a new situation: while one might use ordinary sharps and flats in addition to conventional naturals for the notes of the 7-tone-equal temperament, it would be misleading and confusing to do so, because there is a 7-tone circle of fifths (admittedly quite distorted) already notatable and nameable as F C G D A E B in the usual manner. But there is no 14-tone circle of fifths. There is simply a second set of 7 fifths in a circle which does not intersect the with the first set. Thus is we think of B-flat and B, or B-natural and F-sharp, the 14-tone-system interval would NOT be a fifth of that system and would not sound like one, since B F would be the very same kind of distorted fifth that C G or A E happens to be in 7 or 14. Our suggestion is to call the new notes of 14, the second set of 7, F* C* G* D* A* E* B*, and use asterisks or arrows or whatever you please on the staff. Or just number the tones as for 13.// | ||
The following chart (made by | The following chart (made by [[Tútim Deft Wafil|TMDW]]) shows this recommendation as "standard notation" as well as a proposed alternative. | ||
[[image:Ciclo_Tetradecafonía.png width="456" height="468" caption="Intervallic Cycle of 14 steps Equal per Octave"]] | [[image:Ciclo_Tetradecafonía.png width="456" height="468" caption="Intervallic Cycle of 14 steps Equal per Octave"]] | ||
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<em>The 14-tone scale presents a new situation: while one might use ordinary sharps and flats in addition to conventional naturals for the notes of the 7-tone-equal temperament, it would be misleading and confusing to do so, because there is a 7-tone circle of fifths (admittedly quite distorted) already notatable and nameable as F C G D A E B in the usual manner. But there is no 14-tone circle of fifths. There is simply a second set of 7 fifths in a circle which does not intersect the with the first set. Thus is we think of B-flat and B, or B-natural and F-sharp, the 14-tone-system interval would NOT be a fifth of that system and would not sound like one, since B F would be the very same kind of distorted fifth that C G or A E happens to be in 7 or 14. Our suggestion is to call the new notes of 14, the second set of 7, F* C* G* D* A* E* B*, and use asterisks or arrows or whatever you please on the staff. Or just number the tones as for 13.</em><br /> | <em>The 14-tone scale presents a new situation: while one might use ordinary sharps and flats in addition to conventional naturals for the notes of the 7-tone-equal temperament, it would be misleading and confusing to do so, because there is a 7-tone circle of fifths (admittedly quite distorted) already notatable and nameable as F C G D A E B in the usual manner. But there is no 14-tone circle of fifths. There is simply a second set of 7 fifths in a circle which does not intersect the with the first set. Thus is we think of B-flat and B, or B-natural and F-sharp, the 14-tone-system interval would NOT be a fifth of that system and would not sound like one, since B F would be the very same kind of distorted fifth that C G or A E happens to be in 7 or 14. Our suggestion is to call the new notes of 14, the second set of 7, F* C* G* D* A* E* B*, and use asterisks or arrows or whatever you please on the staff. Or just number the tones as for 13.</em><br /> | ||
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The following chart (made by | The following chart (made by <a class="wiki_link" href="/T%C3%BAtim%20Deft%20Wafil">TMDW</a>) shows this recommendation as &quot;standard notation&quot; as well as a proposed alternative.<br /> | ||
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