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=13 tone equal temperament / 13edo= | |||
13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | 13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | ||
|| Degree || Cents ||= Approximate Ratios* || Note Name** || | || Degree || Cents ||= Approximate Ratios* || Note Name** || | ||
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*based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible. | *based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible. | ||
**based on the 6L1s heptatonic scale; see below. | **based on the 6L1s heptatonic scale; see below. | ||
==Harmony in 13edo== | ==Harmony in 13edo== | ||
Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a "stack of 3rds" the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the [[k*N subgroups|2*13 subgroup]] 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. | |||
The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad). | |||
==Scales in 13edo== | ==Scales in 13edo== | ||
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13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third &amp; major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo).<br /> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="x13 tone equal temperament / 13edo"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->13 tone equal temperament / 13edo</h1> | ||
13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third &amp; major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo).<br /> | |||
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*based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible.<br /> | *based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible.<br /> | ||
</strong>based on the 6L1s heptatonic scale; see below.<br /> | </strong>based on the 6L1s heptatonic scale; see below.<br /> | ||
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Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*13 subgroup</a> 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. <br /> | |||
Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. The | <br /> | ||
The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad).<br /> | |||
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Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | ||
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~diagram by Andrew Heathwaite, based on horograms pioneered by Erv Wilson<br /> | ~diagram by Andrew Heathwaite, based on horograms pioneered by Erv Wilson<br /> | ||
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