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Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be "turned into" a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected. | Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be "turned into" a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected. | ||
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=Animism= | |||
The animist comma appears whenever 3*5*7=13... 26 edo approximates 3, 5, and 7 individually, however 13 edo has 21/16 (=3*7) and is also an animist temperament. In 13 edo, the 5th harmonic is tuned so flatly that 5/4 = 16/13, leading to some interesting identities. So two scales stand out through this construction | |||
0 4 5 8 9 13 pentatonic | |||
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0 1 3 4 5 8 9 10 12 13 nonatonic | |||
=**Compositions**= | =**Compositions**= | ||
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=Igliashon's 13-EDO diatonic approaches= | =Igliashon's 13-EDO diatonic approaches= | ||
From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the "best" use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13.21 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The simplest and most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, 2.11.13, and 2.9.21, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping <1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. This | From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the "best" use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13.21 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The simplest and most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, 2.11.13, and 2.9.21, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping <1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. This is related to the "Sephiroth" modes (ie. the generator being any flatly tempered 13th harmonic, see [[3L 7s|3L+7s]]). For 2.11.13, the simplest generator is 3\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping <2 3| (for 11 and 13). This corresponds to the 2nd horogram above. This scale bears a superficial resemblance to the 9-note MOS of Orwell temperament, although its approximations to the 3rd, 5th, and 7th harmonics are much more distant than in more optimal tunings of the temperament (on the other hand, its approximations to the 11th and 13th harmonics are much better than in optimal tunings of the temperament). | ||
2.5.9 and 2.5.11 are both best-served by the 2\13 generator, corresponding to the 1st horogram above, having the (octave-equivalent) mappings of <2 1| (for 5 and 9) and <2 3| (for 5 and 11). This generator incidentally is also the most efficient at generating a full 2.5.9.11.13 pentad, which it achieves in the space of 5 generators via the octave-equivalent mapping <2 1 3 -2|. Being that this scale is the most well-supplied with the greatest number of target triads, we might want to consider it as a tonal basis for 13-EDO, analogous to the diatonic scale in 12-TET. We could, conveniently enough, use the 7-note MOS scale as a basis for 13-EDO notation, leading to a notation very much like 12-TET except for the insertion of an additional accidental between E and F, as in the above interval chart (in the 6L1s column). It can be thought of as a "circle of major 2nds" rather than a circle of 5ths. | 2.5.9 and 2.5.11 are both best-served by the 2\13 generator, corresponding to the 1st horogram above, having the (octave-equivalent) mappings of <2 1| (for 5 and 9) and <2 3| (for 5 and 11). This generator incidentally is also the most efficient at generating a full 2.5.9.11.13 pentad, which it achieves in the space of 5 generators via the octave-equivalent mapping <2 1 3 -2|. Being that this scale is the most well-supplied with the greatest number of target triads, we might want to consider it as a tonal basis for 13-EDO, analogous to the diatonic scale in 12-TET. We could, conveniently enough, use the 7-note MOS scale as a basis for 13-EDO notation, leading to a notation very much like 12-TET except for the insertion of an additional accidental between E and F, as in the above interval chart (in the 6L1s column). It can be thought of as a "circle of major 2nds" rather than a circle of 5ths. | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>13edo</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule: | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>13edo</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:16:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:16 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:17: --><a href="#x13 tone equal temperament / 13edo">13 tone equal temperament / 13edo</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:17 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:18: --> | <a href="#Harmony in 13edo">Harmony in 13edo</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:18 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:19: --> | <a href="#Scales in 13edo">Scales in 13edo</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:20: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:20 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:21: --> | <a href="#Animism">Animism</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:21 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:22: --> | <a href="#Compositions">Compositions</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:22 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:23: --> | <a href="#Igliashon's 13-EDO diatonic approaches">Igliashon's 13-EDO diatonic approaches</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:23 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:24: --> | <a href="#Commas">Commas</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:24 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:25: --> | ||
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Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | ||
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~diagram by Andrew Heathwaite, based on horograms pioneered by Erv Wilson<br /> | ~diagram by Andrew Heathwaite, based on horograms pioneered by Erv Wilson<br /> | ||
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Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be &quot;turned into&quot; a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected.<br /> | Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be &quot;turned into&quot; a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected.<br /> | ||
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The animist comma appears whenever 3*5*7=13... 26 edo approximates 3, 5, and 7 individually, however 13 edo has 21/16 (=3*7) and is also an animist temperament. In 13 edo, the 5th harmonic is tuned so flatly that 5/4 = 16/13, leading to some interesting identities. So two scales stand out through this construction<br /> | |||
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0 4 5 8 9 13 pentatonic<br /> | |||
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0 1 3 4 5 8 9 10 12 13 nonatonic<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.microtonalmusic.net/audio/slowdance13edo.mp3" rel="nofollow">Slow Dance</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://danielthompson.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Daniel Thompson</a><br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.microtonalmusic.net/audio/slowdance13edo.mp3" rel="nofollow">Slow Dance</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://danielthompson.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Daniel Thompson</a><br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.last.fm/music/City+of+the+Asleep/Map+of+an+Internal+Landscape/Blinding+White+Darkness" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blinding White Darkness</a> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/IgliashonJones">City of the Asleep</a><br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.last.fm/music/City+of+the+Asleep/Map+of+an+Internal+Landscape/Blinding+White+Darkness" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blinding White Darkness</a> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/IgliashonJones">City of the Asleep</a><br /> | ||
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/music/tuning/equal/13equal/13tet.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Upsidedown and Backwards: Explorations in 13-tone Equal Temperament</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/" rel="nofollow">David J. Finnamore</a><br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/music/tuning/equal/13equal/13tet.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Upsidedown and Backwards: Explorations in 13-tone Equal Temperament</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/" rel="nofollow">David J. Finnamore</a><br /> | ||
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From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the &quot;best&quot; use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13.21 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The simplest and most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, 2.11.13, and 2.9.21, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping &lt;1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. This | From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the &quot;best&quot; use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13.21 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The simplest and most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, 2.11.13, and 2.9.21, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping &lt;1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. This is related to the &quot;Sephiroth&quot; modes (ie. the generator being any flatly tempered 13th harmonic, see <a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%207s">3L+7s</a>). For 2.11.13, the simplest generator is 3\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping &lt;2 3| (for 11 and 13). This corresponds to the 2nd horogram above. This scale bears a superficial resemblance to the 9-note MOS of Orwell temperament, although its approximations to the 3rd, 5th, and 7th harmonics are much more distant than in more optimal tunings of the temperament (on the other hand, its approximations to the 11th and 13th harmonics are much better than in optimal tunings of the temperament).<br /> | ||
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2.5.9 and 2.5.11 are both best-served by the 2\13 generator, corresponding to the 1st horogram above, having the (octave-equivalent) mappings of &lt;2 1| (for 5 and 9) and &lt;2 3| (for 5 and 11). This generator incidentally is also the most efficient at generating a full 2.5.9.11.13 pentad, which it achieves in the space of 5 generators via the octave-equivalent mapping &lt;2 1 3 -2|. Being that this scale is the most well-supplied with the greatest number of target triads, we might want to consider it as a tonal basis for 13-EDO, analogous to the diatonic scale in 12-TET. We could, conveniently enough, use the 7-note MOS scale as a basis for 13-EDO notation, leading to a notation very much like 12-TET except for the insertion of an additional accidental between E and F, as in the above interval chart (in the 6L1s column). It can be thought of as a &quot;circle of major 2nds&quot; rather than a circle of 5ths.<br /> | 2.5.9 and 2.5.11 are both best-served by the 2\13 generator, corresponding to the 1st horogram above, having the (octave-equivalent) mappings of &lt;2 1| (for 5 and 9) and &lt;2 3| (for 5 and 11). This generator incidentally is also the most efficient at generating a full 2.5.9.11.13 pentad, which it achieves in the space of 5 generators via the octave-equivalent mapping &lt;2 1 3 -2|. Being that this scale is the most well-supplied with the greatest number of target triads, we might want to consider it as a tonal basis for 13-EDO, analogous to the diatonic scale in 12-TET. We could, conveniently enough, use the 7-note MOS scale as a basis for 13-EDO notation, leading to a notation very much like 12-TET except for the insertion of an additional accidental between E and F, as in the above interval chart (in the 6L1s column). It can be thought of as a &quot;circle of major 2nds&quot; rather than a circle of 5ths.<br /> | ||
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To facilitate discussion of these scales, Igliashon has ascribed them names based on H.P. Lovecraft's &quot;Dream Cycle&quot; mythos. The 2\13-based heptatonic has been named &quot;archeotonic&quot; after the &quot;Old Ones&quot; that rule the Dreamlands, and the 5\13-based octatonic has been named &quot;oneirotonic&quot; after the Dreamlands themselves. Modes of the archeotonic are named after the individual Old Ones themselves; modes of the oneirotonic are named after cities in the Dreamlands. See the charts of modes of the two scales below, excerpted from Igliashon's forthcoming paper &quot;The Case for Thirteen&quot;:<br /> | To facilitate discussion of these scales, Igliashon has ascribed them names based on H.P. Lovecraft's &quot;Dream Cycle&quot; mythos. The 2\13-based heptatonic has been named &quot;archeotonic&quot; after the &quot;Old Ones&quot; that rule the Dreamlands, and the 5\13-based octatonic has been named &quot;oneirotonic&quot; after the Dreamlands themselves. Modes of the archeotonic are named after the individual Old Ones themselves; modes of the oneirotonic are named after cities in the Dreamlands. See the charts of modes of the two scales below, excerpted from Igliashon's forthcoming paper &quot;The Case for Thirteen&quot;:<br /> | ||
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13 EDO <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempers out</a> the following <a class="wiki_link" href="/comma">comma</a>s. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 13 21 30 36 45 48 |.)<br /> | 13 EDO <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempers out</a> the following <a class="wiki_link" href="/comma">comma</a>s. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 13 21 30 36 45 48 |.)<br /> | ||