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13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. It is the sixth [[prime numbers|prime]] edo, following [[11edo]] and coming before [[17edo]]. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | 13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. It is the sixth [[prime numbers|prime]] edo, following [[11edo]] and coming before [[17edo]]. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | ||
[[file:13edo-chromatic-scale.mid|13 edo chromatic ascending and descending scale on C]] | [[file:13edo-chromatic-scale.mid|13 edo chromatic ascending and descending scale on C]] | ||
|| Degree || Cents ||= Approximate Ratios* || 6L1s Names || 5L3s Names || [[26edo]] names || | || __[[#|Degree]]__ || Cents ||= Approximate Ratios* || 6L1s Names || 5L3s Names || [[26edo]] names || | ||
|| 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || C || C || C || | || 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || C || C || C || | ||
|| 1 || 92.3077 ||= 22/21, 55/52, 117/110, 26/25 || C#/Db || C#/Db || Cx/Dbb || | || 1 || 92.3077 ||= 22/21, 55/52, 117/110, 26/25 || C#/Db || C#/Db || Cx/Dbb || | ||
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=Harmony in 13edo= | =Harmony in 13edo= | ||
Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a "stack of 3rds" the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the [[k*N subgroups|2*13 subgroup]] 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. | Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a "stack of 3rds" the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (__[[#|degrees]]__ 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the [[k*N subgroups|2*13 subgroup]] 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. | ||
The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad). | The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite __[[#|close]]__ to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad). | ||
=Scales in 13edo= | =Scales in 13edo= | ||
Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic [[MOSScales|moment of symmetry scales]]. The diagram below shows five "families" of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, & 6\13, respectively. | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic [[MOSScales|moment of symmetry scales]]. The diagram below shows five "families" of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two __[[#|degrees of]]__ 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, & 6\13, respectively. | ||
[[image:13edo_horograms.jpg]] | [[image:13edo_horograms.jpg]] | ||
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[[@http://www.elvenminstrel.com/music/tuning/equal/13equal/13tet.htm|Upsidedown and Backwards: Explorations in 13-tone Equal Temperament]] by [[http://www.elvenminstrel.com/|David J. Finnamore]] | [[@http://www.elvenminstrel.com/music/tuning/equal/13equal/13tet.htm|Upsidedown and Backwards: Explorations in 13-tone Equal Temperament]] by [[http://www.elvenminstrel.com/|David J. Finnamore]] | ||
<span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link">[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/11%20-%2011.%2013%20octave.mp3|Comets Over Flatland 11]]</span> by [[Randy Winchester]] | <span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link">[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/11%20-%2011.%2013%20octave.mp3|Comets Over Flatland 11]]</span> by [[Randy Winchester]] | ||
[[http://archive.org/details/ineedSynthetiklove|(iNeed) SyNthetikLove]] by Jon Lyle Smith | |||
<span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link">[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/20120225-midiaxe-prelude-for-synthesizer-in-13-equal.mp3|Prelude for Synthesizer in 13 Equal]]</span> by [[Chris Vaisvil]] | <span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link">[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/20120225-midiaxe-prelude-for-synthesizer-in-13-equal.mp3|Prelude for Synthesizer in 13 Equal]]</span> by [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ||
<span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link">[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/muon_catalyzed_fusion_13_edo.mp3|Muon Catalyzed Fusion]]</span> by [[Chris Vaisvil]] | <span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link">[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/muon_catalyzed_fusion_13_edo.mp3|Muon Catalyzed Fusion]]</span> by [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ||
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<td>Degree<br /> | <td><u>[[#|Degree]]</u><br /> | ||
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<td>Cents<br /> | <td>Cents<br /> | ||
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Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*13 subgroup</a> 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et.<br /> | Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (<u>[[#|degrees]]</u> 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*13 subgroup</a> 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et.<br /> | ||
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The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad).<br /> | The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite <u>[[#|close]]</u> to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad).<br /> | ||
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Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two <u>[[#|degrees of]]</u> 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/music/tuning/equal/13equal/13tet.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Upsidedown and Backwards: Explorations in 13-tone Equal Temperament</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/" rel="nofollow">David J. Finnamore</a><br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/music/tuning/equal/13equal/13tet.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Upsidedown and Backwards: Explorations in 13-tone Equal Temperament</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.elvenminstrel.com/" rel="nofollow">David J. Finnamore</a><br /> | ||
<span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link"><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/11%20-%2011.%2013%20octave.mp3" rel="nofollow">Comets Over Flatland 11</a></span> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Randy%20Winchester">Randy Winchester</a><br /> | <span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link"><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/11%20-%2011.%2013%20octave.mp3" rel="nofollow">Comets Over Flatland 11</a></span> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Randy%20Winchester">Randy Winchester</a><br /> | ||
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://archive.org/details/ineedSynthetiklove" rel="nofollow">(iNeed) SyNthetikLove</a> by Jon Lyle Smith<br /> | |||
<span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link"><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/20120225-midiaxe-prelude-for-synthesizer-in-13-equal.mp3" rel="nofollow">Prelude for Synthesizer in 13 Equal</a></span> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Chris%20Vaisvil">Chris Vaisvil</a><br /> | <span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link"><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/20120225-midiaxe-prelude-for-synthesizer-in-13-equal.mp3" rel="nofollow">Prelude for Synthesizer in 13 Equal</a></span> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Chris%20Vaisvil">Chris Vaisvil</a><br /> | ||
<span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link"><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/muon_catalyzed_fusion_13_edo.mp3" rel="nofollow">Muon Catalyzed Fusion</a></span> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Chris%20Vaisvil">Chris Vaisvil</a><br /> | <span class="ywp-page-play-pause ywp-page-audio ywp-link-hover ywp-page-img-link"><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/13edo/muon_catalyzed_fusion_13_edo.mp3" rel="nofollow">Muon Catalyzed Fusion</a></span> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Chris%20Vaisvil">Chris Vaisvil</a><br /> |