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13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. It is the sixth [[prime numbers|prime]] edo, following [[11edo]] and coming before [[17edo]]. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | 13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. It is the sixth [[prime numbers|prime]] edo, following [[11edo]] and coming before [[17edo]]. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | ||
[[file:13edo-chromatic-scale.mid|13 edo chromatic ascending and descending scale on C]] | [[file:13edo-chromatic-scale.mid|13 edo chromatic ascending and descending scale on C]] | ||
|| | || **Degree** || Cents ||= Approximate Ratios* || 6L1s Names || 5L3s Names || [[26edo]] names || | ||
|| 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || C || C || C || | || 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || C || C || C || | ||
|| 1 || 92.3077 ||= 22/21, 55/52, 117/110, 26/25 || C#/Db || C#/Db || Cx/Dbb || | || 1 || 92.3077 ||= 22/21, 55/52, 117/110, 26/25 || C#/Db || C#/Db || Cx/Dbb || | ||
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=Harmony in 13edo= | =Harmony in 13edo= | ||
Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a "stack of 3rds" the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (__[[#| | Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a "stack of 3rds" the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (__[[13edo#top|degree]]s__ 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the [[k*N subgroups|2*13 subgroup]] 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. | ||
The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite __[[#|close]]__ to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad). | The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite __[[13edo#top|close]]__ to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad). | ||
=Scales in 13edo= | =Scales in 13edo= | ||
Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic [[MOSScales|moment of symmetry scales]]. The diagram below shows five "families" of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two __[[ | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic [[MOSScales|moment of symmetry scales]]. The diagram below shows five "families" of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two __[[degree]]s of__ 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, & 6\13, respectively. | ||
[[image:13edo_horograms.jpg]] | [[image:13edo_horograms.jpg]] | ||
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<td>< | <td><strong>Degree</strong><br /> | ||
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<td>Cents<br /> | <td>Cents<br /> | ||
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Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (<u> | Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (<u><a class="wiki_link" href="/13edo#top">degree</a>s</u> 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*13 subgroup</a> 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et.<br /> | ||
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The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite <u> | The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite <u><a class="wiki_link" href="/13edo#top">close</a></u> to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad).<br /> | ||
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Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two <u> | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two <u><a class="wiki_link" href="/degree">degree</a>s of</u> 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | ||
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