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In the 11-limit theyxad 4:5:6:7:9:11, 11/9 appears between the harmonic 11th and the harmonic 9th. A triad can also be built with a 3/2 fifth and 11/9 third: this would be 18:22:27. This introduces a second neutral third, 27/22, which together make a perfect fifth. Persony temperaments, including [[17edo]], [[24edo]], [[31edo]], [[41edo]], [[58edo]], [[72edo]], [[130edo]], [[202edo]], [[Gamelismic clan#Miracle|miracle]], [[Breedsmic temperaments#Harry|harry]], and [[Schismatic family#Sesquiquartififths|sesquart]], conflate these two neutral thirds, allowing one neutral third interval to be stacked to generate a perfect fifth. 11/9 differs from 27/22 by 243/242, but also from 49/40 by 441/440 and 60/49 by 540/539, with varied consequences when one or more of them are tempered out. Tempering out all of them leads to the 11-limit rank three temperament [[Breed family#Jove,%20aka%20Wonder|jove]].
In the 11-limit theyxad 4:5:6:7:9:11, 11/9 appears between the harmonic 11th and the harmonic 9th. A triad can also be built with a 3/2 fifth and 11/9 third: this would be 18:22:27. This introduces a second neutral third, 27/22, which together make a perfect fifth. Persony temperaments, including [[17edo]], [[24edo]], [[31edo]], [[41edo]], [[58edo]], [[72edo]], [[130edo]], [[202edo]], [[Gamelismic clan#Miracle|miracle]], [[Breedsmic temperaments#Harry|harry]], and [[Schismatic family#Sesquiquartififths|sesquart]], conflate these two neutral thirds, allowing one neutral third interval to be stacked to generate a perfect fifth. 11/9 differs from 27/22 by 243/242, but also from 49/40 by 441/440 and 60/49 by 540/539, with varied consequences when one or more of them are tempered out. Tempering out all of them leads to the 11-limit rank three temperament [[Breed family#Jove,%20aka%20Wonder|jove]].


By coincidence, the ratio between the common tuning frequency 440hz and the most common AC power frequency of 60hz is exactly an 11/9 when octave-reduced.
By coincidence, the ratio between the common tuning frequency 440hz and the most common AC power frequency of 60hz is exactly 11/9 (but 6 octaves up)


See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
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In the 11-limit theyxad 4:5:6:7:9:11, 11/9 appears between the harmonic 11th and the harmonic 9th. A triad can also be built with a 3/2 fifth and 11/9 third: this would be 18:22:27. This introduces a second neutral third, 27/22, which together make a perfect fifth. Persony temperaments, including &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo"&gt;17edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/41edo"&gt;41edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/130edo"&gt;130edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/202edo"&gt;202edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gamelismic%20clan#Miracle"&gt;miracle&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Breedsmic%20temperaments#Harry"&gt;harry&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Schismatic%20family#Sesquiquartififths"&gt;sesquart&lt;/a&gt;, conflate these two neutral thirds, allowing one neutral third interval to be stacked to generate a perfect fifth. 11/9 differs from 27/22 by 243/242, but also from 49/40 by 441/440 and 60/49 by 540/539, with varied consequences when one or more of them are tempered out. Tempering out all of them leads to the 11-limit rank three temperament &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Breed%20family#Jove,%20aka%20Wonder"&gt;jove&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
In the 11-limit theyxad 4:5:6:7:9:11, 11/9 appears between the harmonic 11th and the harmonic 9th. A triad can also be built with a 3/2 fifth and 11/9 third: this would be 18:22:27. This introduces a second neutral third, 27/22, which together make a perfect fifth. Persony temperaments, including &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo"&gt;17edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/41edo"&gt;41edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/130edo"&gt;130edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/202edo"&gt;202edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gamelismic%20clan#Miracle"&gt;miracle&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Breedsmic%20temperaments#Harry"&gt;harry&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Schismatic%20family#Sesquiquartififths"&gt;sesquart&lt;/a&gt;, conflate these two neutral thirds, allowing one neutral third interval to be stacked to generate a perfect fifth. 11/9 differs from 27/22 by 243/242, but also from 49/40 by 441/440 and 60/49 by 540/539, with varied consequences when one or more of them are tempered out. Tempering out all of them leads to the 11-limit rank three temperament &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Breed%20family#Jove,%20aka%20Wonder"&gt;jove&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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By coincidence, the ratio between the common tuning frequency 440hz and the most common AC power frequency of 60hz is exactly an 11/9 when octave-reduced.&lt;br /&gt;
By coincidence, the ratio between the common tuning frequency 440hz and the most common AC power frequency of 60hz is exactly 11/9 (but 6 octaves up)&lt;br /&gt;
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See: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals"&gt;Gallery of Just Intervals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
See: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals"&gt;Gallery of Just Intervals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>