Unnoticeable comma: Difference between revisions

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This is an imported revision from Wikispaces. The revision metadata is included below for reference:<br>
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: This revision was by author [[User:xenwolf|xenwolf]] and made on <tt>2016-11-21 03:39:11 UTC</tt>.<br>
: This revision was by author [[User:kai.lugheidh|kai.lugheidh]] and made on <tt>2016-11-21 19:30:25 UTC</tt>.<br>
: The original revision id was <tt>599945348</tt>.<br>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">=Summary=  
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">=Summary=  
These commas are called "unnoticeable" because, being equal to or less than 3.5 cents, they are smaller than the peak estimated [[http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem2.html#2|JND]] (just-noticeable difference) of human pitch perception, as illustrated by the research of &lt;range type="comment" id="597264646_1"&gt;[[Aaron Andrew Hunt]].&lt;/range id="597264646_1"&gt; It is improbable that even a trained listener would be able to notice these intervals, and as such they a prime target for psychoacoustically informed [[Microtempering|microtempering]].
These commas are called "unnoticeable" because, being equal to or less than 3.5 cents, they are smaller than the average peak [[http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem2.html#2|JND]] (just-noticeable difference) of human pitch perception, as illustrated by the research of &lt;range type="comment" id="597264646_1"&gt;[[Aaron Andrew Hunt]].&lt;/range id="597264646_1"&gt; It is improbable that even a trained listener would be able to notice these intervals, and as such they a prime target for psychoacoustically informed [[Microtempering|microtempering]].


=List of commas, by prime limit=  
=List of commas, by prime limit=  
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||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
|| Hunt 19-minor mediant comma || 513 / 512 || | -9 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 &gt; || 3.378 ||
|| Hunt 19-minor mediant comma || 513 / 512 || | -9 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 &gt; || 3.378 ||
|| password || 1216 / 1215 || | 6 -5 -1 0 0 0 0 1&gt; || 1.424 ||
|| Blumeyer comma || 2432 / 2431 || | 7 0 0 0 -1 -1 -1 1 &gt; || 0.712 ||
|| Blumeyer comma || 2432 / 2431 || | 7 0 0 0 -1 -1 -1 1 &gt; || 0.712 ||
|| 19-limit decimill ||  || | 9 -3 -3 -2 0 0 1 1&gt; || 0.010 ||</pre></div>
|| 19-limit decimill ||  || | 9 -3 -3 -2 0 0 1 1&gt; || 0.010 ||</pre></div>
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  These commas are called &amp;quot;unnoticeable&amp;quot; because, being equal to or less than 3.5 cents, they are smaller than the peak estimated &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem2.html#2" rel="nofollow"&gt;JND&lt;/a&gt; (just-noticeable difference) of human pitch perception, as illustrated by the research of &lt;a name="comment-597264646_1-open" class="range"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Aaron%20Andrew%20Hunt"&gt;Aaron Andrew Hunt&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;a name="comment-597264646_1-close" class="range"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; It is improbable that even a trained listener would be able to notice these intervals, and as such they a prime target for psychoacoustically informed &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Microtempering"&gt;microtempering&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
  These commas are called &amp;quot;unnoticeable&amp;quot; because, being equal to or less than 3.5 cents, they are smaller than the average peak &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem2.html#2" rel="nofollow"&gt;JND&lt;/a&gt; (just-noticeable difference) of human pitch perception, as illustrated by the research of &lt;a name="comment-597264646_1-open" class="range"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Aaron%20Andrew%20Hunt"&gt;Aaron Andrew Hunt&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;a name="comment-597264646_1-close" class="range"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; It is improbable that even a trained listener would be able to notice these intervals, and as such they a prime target for psychoacoustically informed &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Microtempering"&gt;microtempering&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;password&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;1216 / 1215&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;| 6 -5 -1 0 0 0 0 1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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