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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;span style="font-size: 150%;"&gt;**Tuning systems for the qanun**&lt;/span&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;span style="font-size: 150%;"&gt;**Tuning systems for the qanun**&lt;/span&gt;
Julien Jalaleddine Weiss/Jacques Dudon
Julien Jalaleddine Weiss
Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance
Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical
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==1) First System J.J.Weiss==  
==First System J.J.Weiss==  
Inequal subdivision of the [[2187_2048|apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)]] into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:
Inequal subdivision of the [[2187_2048|apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)]] into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:
* Subdivision into one [[81_80|syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)]], one [[25_24|Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)]] and another syntonic comma.
* Subdivision into one [[81_80|syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)]], one [[25_24|Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)]] and another syntonic comma.
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Julien Jalaleddine Weiss/Jacques Dudon&lt;br /&gt;
Julien Jalaleddine Weiss&lt;br /&gt;
Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance&lt;br /&gt;
Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance&lt;br /&gt;
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical&lt;br /&gt;
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical&lt;br /&gt;
University.&lt;br /&gt;
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  The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/qanun"&gt;qanun&lt;/a&gt; (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with &amp;quot;mandals/orabs&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
  The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/qanun"&gt;qanun&lt;/a&gt; (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with &amp;quot;mandals/orabs&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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  Inequal subdivision of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048"&gt;apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
  Inequal subdivision of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048"&gt;apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Subdivision into one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)&lt;/a&gt;, one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24"&gt;Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; and another syntonic comma.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Subdivision into one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)&lt;/a&gt;, one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24"&gt;Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; and another syntonic comma.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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