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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><span style="font-size: 150%;">**Tuning systems for the qanun**</span> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><span style="font-size: 150%;">**Tuning systems for the qanun**</span> | ||
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Julien Jalaleddine Weiss | Julien Jalaleddine Weiss, used with permission. | ||
Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance | Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance | ||
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical | Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical | ||
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J.J. Weiss, Qanun no. 9. Luthier: Kenan Ozten. | J.J. Weiss, Qanun no. 9. Luthier: Kenan Ozten. | ||
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|16|15|12|13|14|22</span> | ||
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Equal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents) | Equal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents) | ||
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13|22</span> | ||
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">|</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22</span> | ||
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Equal division of [[25_24|25/24]] into 5 parts (to make it easier for luthiers) | Equal division of [[25_24|25/24]] into 5 parts (to make it easier for luthiers) | ||
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|14|14|14|14|14|22</span> | ||
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==Super-symmetrical system, ascending/descending with 54/49, J.J. Weiss== | ==Super-symmetrical system, ascending/descending with 54/49, J.J. Weiss== | ||
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|14|17|13|13|13|22</span></span> | |||
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==Super-symmetrical system, ascending/descending with 14/13, J.J. Weiss== | ==Super-symmetrical system, ascending/descending with 14/13, J.J. Weiss== | ||
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22, 16, 13, 12, 13, 16, 22</span></span> | |||
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==Super-symmetrical system, ascening/descending with 11/10, J.J. Weiss== | |||
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==Super-symmetrical system, ascening/descending with 35/32, J.J. Weiss== | |||
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==System Jacques Dudon (2006)== | ==System Jacques Dudon (2006)== | ||
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Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance<br /> | Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance<br /> | ||
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical<br /> | Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical<br /> | ||
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J.J. Weiss, Qanun no. 9. Luthier: Kenan Ozten.<br /> | J.J. Weiss, Qanun no. 9. Luthier: Kenan Ozten.<br /> | ||
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|16|15|12|13|14|22</span><br /> | ||
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Equal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents)<br /> | Equal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents)<br /> | ||
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13|22</span><br /> | ||
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">|</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22</span><br /> | ||
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Equal division of <a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24">25/24</a> into 5 parts (to make it easier for luthiers)<br /> | Equal division of <a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24">25/24</a> into 5 parts (to make it easier for luthiers)<br /> | ||
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; | Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|14|14|14|14|14|22</span><br /> | ||
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