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==Super-symmetric model with non-aliquot division of 65/54==  
==Super-symmetric model with non-aliquot division of 65/54==  
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==Equal division of the Zarlinian semitone==  
==Equal division of the Zarlinian semitone==  
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This is the simplest variant for luthiers...
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Table of pitches from C to F (approximations in cents):
Table of pitches from C to F (approximations in cents):
 
||~ String ||~ b ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~ Base note ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~ # ||
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||~ C ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||= 0 || 22 || 36 || 50 || 64 || 78 || 92 || 114 ||
||~ D || 90 || 112 || 126 || 140 || 154 || 168 || 182 ||= 204 || 226 || 240 || 254 || 268 || 282 || 296 || 318 ||
||~ E || 294 || 316 || 330 || 344 || 358 || 372 || 386 ||= 408 || 430 || 444 || 458 || 472 || 486 || 500 || 522 ||
||~ F || 384 || 406 || 420 || 434 || 448 || 462 || 476 ||= 498 || 520 || 534 || 548 || 562 || 576 || 590 || 612 ||


Interval ratios, ascending from C:
Interval ratios, ascending from C:
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||~ String ||~ b ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~ Base note ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~ # ||
||~ String ||~ b ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~ Base note ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~ # ||
||~ C ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||= 0 || 22 || 38 || 51 || 63 || 76 || 92 || 114 ||
||~ C ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||= 0 || 22 || 38 || 51 || 63 || 76 || 92 || 114 ||
||~ D || 90 || 112 || 128 || 141 || 153 || 166 || 182 ||= 204 || 226 || 242 || 255 || 267 || 280 || 196 || 318 ||
||~ D || 90 || 112 || 128 || 141 || 153 || 166 || 182 ||= 204 || 226 || 242 || 255 || 267 || 280 || 296 || 318 ||
||~ E || 294 || 316 || 329 || 341 || 354 || 370 || 386 ||= 408 || 430 || 446 || 459 || 471 || 484 || 500 || 522 ||
||~ E || 294 || 316 || 329 || 341 || 354 || 370 || 386 ||= 408 || 430 || 446 || 459 || 471 || 484 || 500 || 522 ||
||~ F || 384 || 406 || 422 || 435 || 447 || 460 || 476 ||= 498 || 520 || 536 || 549 || 561 || 574 || 590 || 612 ||
||~ F || 384 || 406 || 422 || 435 || 447 || 460 || 476 ||= 498 || 520 || 536 || 549 || 561 || 574 || 590 || 612 ||
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This gives 15 potential different pitches per base note, correpsonding to the mandals. Seven base notes (C, D, E, F, G, A, B or Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Si), corresponding to the strings, lead to a notation system of 7*15=105 pitches, in accordance with the real playing capabilities of the qanun. See the following document, which also gives all the pitches in one octave (in ratios and cents) that can be played by system 1 and 2.&lt;br /&gt;
This gives 15 potential different pitches per base note, correpsonding to the mandals. Seven base notes (C, D, E, F, G, A, B or Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Si), corresponding to the strings, lead to a notation system of 7*15=105 pitches, in accordance with the real playing capabilities of the qanun. See the following document, which also gives all the pitches in one octave (in ratios and cents) that can be played by system 1 and 2.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the simplest variant for luthiers...&lt;br /&gt;
This is the simplest variant for luthiers...&lt;br /&gt;
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Table of pitches from C to F (approximations in cents):&lt;br /&gt;
Table of pitches from C to F (approximations in cents):&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;th&gt;String&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;b&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;Base note&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;#&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;C&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;22&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;36&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;64&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;78&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;92&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;114&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;90&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;112&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;126&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;140&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;154&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;168&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;182&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;204&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;226&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;240&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;254&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;268&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;282&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;296&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;318&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;E&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;294&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;316&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;330&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;344&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;358&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;372&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;386&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;408&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;430&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;444&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;458&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;472&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;486&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;500&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;522&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;F&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;384&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;406&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;420&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;434&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;448&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;462&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;476&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;498&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;520&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;534&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;548&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;562&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;576&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;590&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;612&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
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Interval ratios, ascending from C:&lt;br /&gt;
Interval ratios, ascending from C:&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;280&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;196&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;296&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;318&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;318&lt;br /&gt;