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==11-limit== | |||
Commas: 126/125, 385/384 | |||
Map: [<1 0 0 -1 8|, <0 1 0 -2 3|, <0 0 1 3 -4]] | |||
Generators: 2, 3, 5 | |||
EDOs: 15, 19, 27, 31, 46, 77, 96d, 127d, 173d, 204de, 300de | |||
Badness: .000677 | |||
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Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -3 2|, <0 1 0 -2 7 4|, <0 0 1 3 -2 -2|] | Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -3 2|, <0 1 0 -2 7 4|, <0 0 1 3 -2 -2|] | ||
EDOs: 34, 46, 172cd, 218cdf, 264bcdf, 310bcdf | EDOs: 34, 46, 172cd, 218cdf, 264bcdf, 310bcdf | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Starling family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule: | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Starling family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:36:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@normal&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaToc&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/normal?w=225&amp;h=100&quot;/&gt; --><div id="toc"><h1 class="nopad">Table of Contents</h1><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:36 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:37: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#x7-limit starling">7-limit starling</a></div> | ||
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The head of the starling <a class="wiki_link" href="/family">family</a> is starling, which tempers out <a class="wiki_link" href="/126_125">126/125</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling%20comma">starling comma</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/septimal%20semicomma">septimal semicomma</a>. Starling has a normal list basis of [2, 3, 5]; hence a 5-limit scale can be converted to starling simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent starling tuning, is given by <a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo">77edo</a>. Other possible tunings are <a class="wiki_link" href="/108edo">108edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/185edo">185edo</a>, and the nonpatent <a class="wiki_link" href="/135edo">135edo</a> val &lt;135 214 314 379|.<br /> | The head of the starling <a class="wiki_link" href="/family">family</a> is starling, which tempers out <a class="wiki_link" href="/126_125">126/125</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling%20comma">starling comma</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/septimal%20semicomma">septimal semicomma</a>. Starling has a normal list basis of [2, 3, 5]; hence a 5-limit scale can be converted to starling simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent starling tuning, is given by <a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo">77edo</a>. Other possible tunings are <a class="wiki_link" href="/108edo">108edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/185edo">185edo</a>, and the nonpatent <a class="wiki_link" href="/135edo">135edo</a> val &lt;135 214 314 379|.<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 385/384<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;1 0 0 -1 8|, &lt;0 1 0 -2 3|, &lt;0 0 1 3 -4]]<br /> | |||
Generators: 2, 3, 5<br /> | |||
EDOs: 15, 19, 27, 31, 46, 77, 96d, 127d, 173d, 204de, 300de<br /> | |||
Badness: .000677<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 126/125, 176/175<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 126/125, 176/175<br /> | ||
Associated linear temperament: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Starling%20temperaments">myna</a><br /> | Associated linear temperament: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Starling%20temperaments">myna</a><br /> | ||
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Scales: <a class="wiki_link" href="/thrush12">thrush12</a><br /> | Scales: <a class="wiki_link" href="/thrush12">thrush12</a><br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195<br /> | ||
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Commas 126/125, 176/175, 144/143<br /> | Commas 126/125, 176/175, 144/143<br /> | ||
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Projection pairs: 7 125/18 11 3125/288 13 41472/3125<br /> | Projection pairs: 7 125/18 11 3125/288 13 41472/3125<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 66/65<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 66/65<br /> | ||
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Commas: 91/90, 126/125, 176/175<br /> | Commas: 91/90, 126/125, 176/175<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 56/55, 100/99<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 56/55, 100/99<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 91/90<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 91/90<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 40/39<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 40/39<br /> | ||
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Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 78/77<br /> | Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 78/77<br /> | ||
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[[toc]] The head of the starling [[family]] is starling, which tempers out [[126_125|126/125]], the [[starling comma]] or [[septimal semicomma]]. Starling has a normal list basis of [2, 3, 5]; hence a 5-limit scale can be converted to starling simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent starling tuning, is given by [[77edo]]. Other possible tunings are [[108edo]] and [[185edo]], and the nonpatent [[135edo]] val <135 214 314 379|. In starling, (6/5)^3 = 126/125 * 12/7, and minor thirds/major sixths are low complexity intervals. A suitable 5-limit scale to temper via starling will be one where there are chains of minor thirds. Starling has a 6/5-6/5-6/5-7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord which is very characteristic of it. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of four stacked very flat minor thirds. Because no appreciable tuning accuracy is lost by including 1029/1024 along with 126/125 in the comma list, which leads to [[Starling temperaments|valentine temperament]], there is a close relationship between the two. Even if tempering a 5-limit scale, one can assume valentine tempering. =7-limit starling= [[Comma]] c = 126/125 7- and 9-limit minimax: 3 and 7 just, 5 1/3c sharp [<1 0 0 0|, <0 1 0 0|, <1/3 2/3 0 1/3|, <0 0 0 1|] Eigenmonzos: 2, 8/7, 4/3 Minkowski lattice basis: 6/5 length 1.068, 5/4 length 1.206 Angle(6/5, 5/4) = 100.364 degrees Map to lattice: [<0 1 0 -2|, <0 1 1 1|] Map: [<1 0 0 -5|, <0 1 0 2|, <0 0 1 2|] Generators: 2, 3, 5 [[edo|EDOs]]: 12, 15, 16, 19, 27, 31, 34, 43, 46, 50, 58, 65, [[77edo|77]], [[108edo|108]], [[166edo|166c]], [[185edo|185]], [[243edo|243c]] Badness: 0.0000699 [[Projection pair]]: 7 125/18 Scales: [[starling7]], [[starling8]], [[starling9]], [[starling11]], [[starling12]], [[starling15]], [[starling16]], [[starling17]], [[starling19]] ==[[Minkowski blocks]]== 7: 25/24, 81/80 8: 16/15, 648/625 9: 27/25, 128/125 11: 16/15, 15625/15552 12: 128/125, 628/625 15: 128/125, 250/243 16: 648/625, 3125/3072 17: 25/24, 20480/19683 19: 81/80, 3125/3072 27: 128/125, 78732/78125 28: 648/625, 16875/16384 31: 81/80, 1990656/1953125 34: 15625/15552, 2048/2025 ==11-limit== Commas: 126/125, 385/384 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 8|, <0 1 0 -2 3|, <0 0 1 3 -4]] Generators: 2, 3, 5 EDOs: 15, 19, 27, 31, 46, 77, 96d, 127d, 173d, 204de, 300de Badness: .000677 =Thrush= [[Comma|Commas]]: 126/125, 176/175 Associated linear temperament: [[Starling temperaments|myna]] 7 and 9 limit minimax [|1 0 0 0 0>, |0 1 0 0 0>, |1/3 2/3 0 1/3 0>, |0 0 0 1 0>, |-10/3 4/3 0 5/3 0>] [[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 7/6, 4/3 Lattice basis 5/4 length 0.8576 6/5 length 0.9314 Angle(5/4, 6/5) = 74.6239 degrees Map to lattice: [<0 1 1 1 3|, <0 1 0 -2 -2|] Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5|, <0 1 0 -2 -2|, <0 0 1 3 5|] [[Generator|Generators]]: 2, 3, 5 EDOs: 12, 15, 31, 46, 58, 89, 135c, 224c Badness: 0.000353 Projection pairs: 7 125/18 11 3125/288 Scales: [[thrush12]] ==13-limit== Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 0|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -5|, <0 0 1 3 5 5|] EDOs: 31, 46, 58, 89f, 104c, 135c, 193cf, 239cf, 328cf Badness: 0.000677 ==Bluebird== Commas 126/125, 176/175, 144/143 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 9|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 4|, <0 0 1 3 5 -5|] EDOs: 12, 15, 31, 43, 48c, 58, 147cf, 205cef Badness: 0.000915 Projection pairs: 7 125/18 11 3125/288 13 41472/3125 ==Nightingale== Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 66/65 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 -4|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -1|, <0 0 1 3 5 4|] [[edo|EDOs]]: [[15edo|15]], [[19edo|19f]], [[21edo|21e]], [[22edo|22f]], [[28edo|28]], [[31edo|31]], [[46edo|46]], [[58edo|58]], [[89edo|89]], [[108edo|108ef]] Badness: 0.000837 ==Veery== Commas: 91/90, 126/125, 176/175 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 2|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 4|, <0 0 1 3 5 -2|] EDOs: 12, 15, 46 Badness: 0.000991 =Thrasher= [[Comma|Commas]]: 56/55, 100/99 11-limit minimax [|1 0 0 0 0>, |1 3/4 0 1/4 -3/8>, |1 1/2 0 1/2 -1/4>, |0 0 0 1 0>, |2 -1/2 0 1/2 1/4>] [[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 8/7, 11/9 Lattice basis: 6/5 length 0.9089 5/4 length 1.2007 Angle(6/5, 5/4) = 98.8447 Map to lattice: [<0 1 0 -2 -2|, <0 1 1 1 0|] Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2|, <0 1 0 -2 -2|, <0 0 1 3 2|] [[Generator|Generators]]: 2, 3, 5 EDOs: 12, 15, 19, 27e, 34, 46e, 58e, 61e, 73e Badness: 0.000480 ==13-limit== Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 91/90 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2 2|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 4|, <0 0 1 3 2 -2|] EDOs: 12, 15, 18, 25e, 27e, 34, 46e, 51ce, 61e Badness: 0.000876 ==Mockingbird== Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 40/39 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2 3|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -1|, <0 0 1 3 2 1|] EDOs: 12f, 15, 27ef Badness: 0.000859 ==Catbird== Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 78/77 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2 0|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -5|, <0 0 1 3 2 5|] [[edo|EDOs]]: [[12edo|12]], [[15edo|15]], [[17edo|17c]], [[19edo|19]], [[22edo|22ef]], [[27edo|27e]], [[34edo|34]], [[58edo|58e]] Badness: 0.000905 =Aplonis= Commas: 126/125, 540/539 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 4|, <0 1 0 -2 7|, <0 0 1 3 -5|] EDOs: 19, 31, 58, 67, 89, 197c, 286ce, 375ce Badness: 0.000648 ==13-limit== Commas: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 4 0|, <0 1 0 -2 7 -5|, <0 0 1 3 -5 5|] EDOs: 19, 31, 41, 43, 50, 58, 89f, 125ce, 135ce, 147cf, 166cef, 224cef Badness: 0.000821 =Oxpecker= Commas: 121/120, 126/125 Map: [<1 0 1 2 2|, <0 1 1 1 1|, <0 0 -2 -6 -1|] EDOs: 8d, 15, 31, 46, 77, 185e, 262cde Badness: 0.000699 ==Woodpecker== Commas: 66/65, 121/120, 126/125 Map: [<1 0 1 2 2 2|, <0 1 1 1 1 1|, <0 0 -2 -6 -1 -1|] EDOs: 15, 31, 46f, 70f, 101f Badness: 0.001093 =Treecreeper= Commas: 126/125, 1232/1215 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -3|, <0 1 0 -2 7|, <0 0 1 3 -2|] EDOs: 34, 46, 119c, 165c Badness: 0.001585 ==13-limit== Commas: 91/90, 126/125, 352/351 Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -3 2|, <0 1 0 -2 7 4|, <0 0 1 3 -2 -2|] EDOs: 34, 46, 172cd, 218cdf, 264bcdf, 310bcdf Badness: 0.001588
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<html><head><title>Starling family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:36:<img id="wikitext@@toc@@normal" class="WikiMedia WikiMediaToc" title="Table of Contents" src="/site/embedthumbnail/toc/normal?w=225&h=100"/> --><div id="toc"><h1 class="nopad">Table of Contents</h1><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:36 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:37: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#x7-limit starling">7-limit starling</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:37 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:38: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#x7-limit starling-Minkowski blocks">Minkowski blocks</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:38 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:39: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#x7-limit starling-11-limit">11-limit</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:39 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:40: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#Thrush">Thrush</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:40 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:41: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Thrush-13-limit">13-limit</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:41 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:42: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Thrush-Bluebird">Bluebird</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:42 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:43: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Thrush-Nightingale">Nightingale</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:43 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:44: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Thrush-Veery">Veery</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:44 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:45: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#Thrasher">Thrasher</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:45 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:46: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Thrasher-13-limit">13-limit</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:46 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:47: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Thrasher-Mockingbird">Mockingbird</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:47 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:48: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Thrasher-Catbird">Catbird</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:48 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:49: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#Aplonis">Aplonis</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:49 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:50: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Aplonis-13-limit">13-limit</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:50 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:51: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#Oxpecker">Oxpecker</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:51 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:52: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Oxpecker-Woodpecker">Woodpecker</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:52 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:53: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#Treecreeper">Treecreeper</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:53 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:54: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#Treecreeper-13-limit">13-limit</a></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:54 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:55: --></div> <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:55 --><br /> The head of the starling <a class="wiki_link" href="/family">family</a> is starling, which tempers out <a class="wiki_link" href="/126_125">126/125</a>, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling%20comma">starling comma</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/septimal%20semicomma">septimal semicomma</a>. Starling has a normal list basis of [2, 3, 5]; hence a 5-limit scale can be converted to starling simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent starling tuning, is given by <a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo">77edo</a>. Other possible tunings are <a class="wiki_link" href="/108edo">108edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/185edo">185edo</a>, and the nonpatent <a class="wiki_link" href="/135edo">135edo</a> val <135 214 314 379|.<br /> <br /> In starling, (6/5)^3 = 126/125 * 12/7, and minor thirds/major sixths are low complexity intervals. A suitable 5-limit scale to temper via starling will be one where there are chains of minor thirds. Starling has a 6/5-6/5-6/5-7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord which is very characteristic of it. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of four stacked very flat minor thirds.<br /> <br /> Because no appreciable tuning accuracy is lost by including 1029/1024 along with 126/125 in the comma list, which leads to <a class="wiki_link" href="/Starling%20temperaments">valentine temperament</a>, there is a close relationship between the two. Even if tempering a 5-limit scale, one can assume valentine tempering.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h1> --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="x7-limit starling"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->7-limit starling</h1> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Comma</a> c = 126/125<br /> <br /> 7- and 9-limit minimax: 3 and 7 just, 5 1/3c sharp<br /> [<1 0 0 0|, <0 1 0 0|, <1/3 2/3 0 1/3|, <0 0 0 1|]<br /> Eigenmonzos: 2, 8/7, 4/3<br /> <br /> Minkowski lattice basis: 6/5 length 1.068, 5/4 length 1.206<br /> Angle(6/5, 5/4) = 100.364 degrees<br /> Map to lattice: [<0 1 0 -2|, <0 1 1 1|]<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -5|, <0 1 0 2|, <0 0 1 2|]<br /> Generators: 2, 3, 5<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/edo">EDOs</a>: 12, 15, 16, 19, 27, 31, 34, 43, 46, 50, 58, 65, <a class="wiki_link" href="/77edo">77</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/108edo">108</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/166edo">166c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/185edo">185</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/243edo">243c</a><br /> Badness: 0.0000699<br /> <br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Projection%20pair">Projection pair</a>: 7 125/18<br /> <br /> Scales: <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling7">starling7</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling8">starling8</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling9">starling9</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling11">starling11</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling12">starling12</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling15">starling15</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling16">starling16</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling17">starling17</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/starling19">starling19</a><br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:<h2> --><h2 id="toc1"><a name="x7-limit starling-Minkowski blocks"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 --><a class="wiki_link" href="/Minkowski%20blocks">Minkowski blocks</a></h2> 7: 25/24, 81/80<br /> 8: 16/15, 648/625<br /> 9: 27/25, 128/125<br /> 11: 16/15, 15625/15552<br /> 12: 128/125, 628/625<br /> 15: 128/125, 250/243<br /> 16: 648/625, 3125/3072<br /> 17: 25/24, 20480/19683<br /> 19: 81/80, 3125/3072<br /> 27: 128/125, 78732/78125<br /> 28: 648/625, 16875/16384<br /> 31: 81/80, 1990656/1953125<br /> 34: 15625/15552, 2048/2025<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:<h2> --><h2 id="toc2"><a name="x7-limit starling-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->11-limit</h2> Commas: 126/125, 385/384<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 8|, <0 1 0 -2 3|, <0 0 1 3 -4]]<br /> Generators: 2, 3, 5<br /> EDOs: 15, 19, 27, 31, 46, 77, 96d, 127d, 173d, 204de, 300de<br /> Badness: .000677<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:<h1> --><h1 id="toc3"><a name="Thrush"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 -->Thrush</h1> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 126/125, 176/175<br /> Associated linear temperament: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Starling%20temperaments">myna</a><br /> <br /> 7 and 9 limit minimax<br /> [|1 0 0 0 0>, |0 1 0 0 0>, |1/3 2/3 0 1/3 0>, <br /> |0 0 0 1 0>, |-10/3 4/3 0 5/3 0>]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo">Eigenmonzos</a>: 2, 7/6, 4/3<br /> <br /> Lattice basis 5/4 length 0.8576 6/5 length 0.9314<br /> Angle(5/4, 6/5) = 74.6239 degrees<br /> Map to lattice: [<0 1 1 1 3|, <0 1 0 -2 -2|]<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5|, <0 1 0 -2 -2|, <0 0 1 3 5|]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Generator">Generators</a>: 2, 3, 5<br /> EDOs: 12, 15, 31, 46, 58, 89, 135c, 224c<br /> Badness: 0.000353<br /> <br /> Projection pairs: 7 125/18 11 3125/288 <br /> <br /> Scales: <a class="wiki_link" href="/thrush12">thrush12</a><br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:<h2> --><h2 id="toc4"><a name="Thrush-13-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 -->13-limit</h2> Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 0|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -5|, <0 0 1 3 5 5|]<br /> EDOs: 31, 46, 58, 89f, 104c, 135c, 193cf, 239cf, 328cf<br /> Badness: 0.000677<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:10:<h2> --><h2 id="toc5"><a name="Thrush-Bluebird"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:10 -->Bluebird</h2> Commas 126/125, 176/175, 144/143<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 9|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 4|, <0 0 1 3 5 -5|]<br /> EDOs: 12, 15, 31, 43, 48c, 58, 147cf, 205cef<br /> Badness: 0.000915<br /> <br /> Projection pairs: 7 125/18 11 3125/288 13 41472/3125<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:12:<h2> --><h2 id="toc6"><a name="Thrush-Nightingale"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:12 -->Nightingale</h2> Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 66/65<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 -4|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -1|, <0 0 1 3 5 4|]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/edo">EDOs</a>: <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19f</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/21edo">21e</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22f</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/28edo">28</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo">46</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/89edo">89</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/108edo">108ef</a><br /> Badness: 0.000837<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:14:<h2> --><h2 id="toc7"><a name="Thrush-Veery"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:14 -->Veery</h2> Commas: 91/90, 126/125, 176/175<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -5 2|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 4|, <0 0 1 3 5 -2|]<br /> EDOs: 12, 15, 46<br /> Badness: 0.000991<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:16:<h1> --><h1 id="toc8"><a name="Thrasher"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:16 -->Thrasher</h1> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Commas</a>: 56/55, 100/99<br /> <br /> 11-limit minimax<br /> [|1 0 0 0 0>, |1 3/4 0 1/4 -3/8>, <br /> |1 1/2 0 1/2 -1/4>, |0 0 0 1 0>, <br /> |2 -1/2 0 1/2 1/4>]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo">Eigenmonzos</a>: 2, 8/7, 11/9<br /> <br /> Lattice basis: 6/5 length 0.9089 5/4 length 1.2007<br /> Angle(6/5, 5/4) = 98.8447<br /> Map to lattice: [<0 1 0 -2 -2|, <0 1 1 1 0|]<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2|, <0 1 0 -2 -2|, <0 0 1 3 2|]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Generator">Generators</a>: 2, 3, 5<br /> EDOs: 12, 15, 19, 27e, 34, 46e, 58e, 61e, 73e<br /> Badness: 0.000480<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:<h2> --><h2 id="toc9"><a name="Thrasher-13-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 -->13-limit</h2> Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 91/90<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2 2|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 4|, <0 0 1 3 2 -2|]<br /> EDOs: 12, 15, 18, 25e, 27e, 34, 46e, 51ce, 61e<br /> Badness: 0.000876<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:20:<h2> --><h2 id="toc10"><a name="Thrasher-Mockingbird"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:20 -->Mockingbird</h2> Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 40/39<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2 3|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -1|, <0 0 1 3 2 1|]<br /> EDOs: 12f, 15, 27ef<br /> Badness: 0.000859<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:22:<h2> --><h2 id="toc11"><a name="Thrasher-Catbird"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:22 -->Catbird</h2> Commas: 126/125, 100/99, 78/77<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 2 0|, <0 1 0 -2 -2 -5|, <0 0 1 3 2 5|]<br /> <a class="wiki_link" href="/edo">EDOs</a>: <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo">15</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo">17c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22ef</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/27edo">27e</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58e</a><br /> Badness: 0.000905<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:24:<h1> --><h1 id="toc12"><a name="Aplonis"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:24 -->Aplonis</h1> Commas: 126/125, 540/539<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 4|, <0 1 0 -2 7|, <0 0 1 3 -5|]<br /> EDOs: 19, 31, 58, 67, 89, 197c, 286ce, 375ce<br /> Badness: 0.000648<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:26:<h2> --><h2 id="toc13"><a name="Aplonis-13-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:26 -->13-limit</h2> Commas: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 4 0|, <0 1 0 -2 7 -5|, <0 0 1 3 -5 5|]<br /> EDOs: 19, 31, 41, 43, 50, 58, 89f, 125ce, 135ce, 147cf, 166cef, 224cef<br /> Badness: 0.000821<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:28:<h1> --><h1 id="toc14"><a name="Oxpecker"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:28 -->Oxpecker</h1> Commas: 121/120, 126/125<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 1 2 2|, <0 1 1 1 1|, <0 0 -2 -6 -1|]<br /> EDOs: 8d, 15, 31, 46, 77, 185e, 262cde<br /> Badness: 0.000699<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:30:<h2> --><h2 id="toc15"><a name="Oxpecker-Woodpecker"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:30 -->Woodpecker</h2> Commas: 66/65, 121/120, 126/125<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 1 2 2 2|, <0 1 1 1 1 1|, <0 0 -2 -6 -1 -1|]<br /> EDOs: 15, 31, 46f, 70f, 101f <br /> Badness: 0.001093<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:32:<h1> --><h1 id="toc16"><a name="Treecreeper"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:32 -->Treecreeper</h1> Commas: 126/125, 1232/1215<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -3|, <0 1 0 -2 7|, <0 0 1 3 -2|]<br /> EDOs: 34, 46, 119c, 165c<br /> Badness: 0.001585<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:34:<h2> --><h2 id="toc17"><a name="Treecreeper-13-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:34 -->13-limit</h2> Commas: 91/90, 126/125, 352/351<br /> <br /> Map: [<1 0 0 -1 -3 2|, <0 1 0 -2 7 4|, <0 0 1 3 -2 -2|]<br /> EDOs: 34, 46, 172cd, 218cdf, 264bcdf, 310bcdf<br /> Badness: 0.001588</body></html>