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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The Seventeen-Tone Piano Project involves tuning two acoustic pianos in seventeen equal tones per octave and then playing music on them.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**The Seventeen-Tone Piano Project involves tuning two acoustic pianos in seventeen equal tones per octave and then playing music on them.**


Two pianos, located at Rice University's Shepherd School of Music (Houston, Texas), are tuned to 17-EDO. Why? How? I'm a student there, and they're very nice.
Two pianos, located at Rice University's Shepherd School of Music (Houston, Texas), are tuned to 17-EDO. Why? How? I'm a student there, and they're very nice.
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**First, write a piece of music. Make sure you have an idea of how it will sound; that should be an important criterion in the creation. See below for technical assistance.
**First, write a piece of music. Make sure you have an idea of how it will sound; that should be an important criterion in the creation. See below for technical assistance.


The deadline for submissions is **Monday August 21 2006**. Prepare a score and get it to me. Email PDF files to udderbot at gmail dot com, or send paper scores to
The deadline for submissions is **Sunday** **August 27 2006**, but let me know you're thinking of submitting something. Prepare a score and get it to me. Email PDF files to udderbot at gmail dot com, or send paper scores to


17 tone piano project
17 tone piano project
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Houston, TX 77005
Houston, TX 77005


Then real live musicians will learn the music and there'll be a concert on **Tuesday September 26 2006**. It'll be recorded. Heck, might even be webcast live.
Then real live musicians will learn the music and there'll be a **CONCERT** on **Tuesday September 26 2006**. It'll be recorded. Heck, might even be webcast live. The point is, it won't end there.


**Links...****
**Links...****
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**Music theory through the eyes of the 17 Tone Piano Project:**
**Music theory through the eyes of the 17 Tone Piano Project:**
The layout of the two pianos in 17 is simple: following the
17-tone equal tuning has fifths very close to just-intonation (and 12-equal) fifths. Consequently we use the usual circle-of-fifths on a five-line-staff notation, with a twist of new enharmonics, caused by the accumulation of the difference in the size of the fifth. To figure out the enharmonic names of any closed circle of fifths, write out a portion of it, like:
circle-of-fifths naming system for 17, the white keys of both pianos
are tuned to the same (superpythagorean) C major scale. The piano
called "flat" has black keys tuned to Db Eb Gb Ab Bb; the one called
"sharp" has C# D# F# G# A#. 7+5+5=17. Remember, C# is HIGHER than
Db! The setup has been to set the two pianos at a right angle, with
flats on the left, sharps on the right.


Cb Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#


and then wrap it into a circle of the desired size (image forthcoming!). If you do this with 17, you will notice that Cb = A#...that's how big the value of "flat/sharp" is in 17. The closer two notes are in the circle, the more familiar to us their harmonic function.


(need an image with the cents values, pitch classes, and ascending notation here).


DISCLAIMER: the 17-tone piano project is in no way affiliated with
Note that C# is HIGHER than Db; the "half step"/"minor second" in 17 is twice as small as the "augmented unison"/"sharp"/"flat." Two sharp/flats add up to a minor third. Two "neutral thirds" add up to a "perfect fifth." These last two properties are shared by 17 and 24 (quartertones).
Rice University. it is not even an official Shepherd School of Music
event, not being a senior or junior or masters or doctoral or
faculty-sponsored recital. heck, it could completely fall through. but
don't let that stop you.


Questions? Click "edit" at the top of page.</pre></div>
**Notation convention.**
Following the circle-of-fifths naming system for 17, the white keys of both pianos are tuned identically, to the (notated) C major scale. The pian called "flat" has black keys tuned to Db Eb Gb Ab Bb; the one called "sharp" has C# D# F# G# A#. IThis way we get 7+5+5 = 17 notes.
 
In scores with separate staves for each piano, it is not necessary to spell chords with these distinctions; notating intervals in their most common appearance is recommended, e.g. "Eb to C on the sharp piano" rather than "D# to C."
 
The pianos (baby grands, did I mention playing inside the piano is OK?) will be set up at a right angle, with flats on the left, sharps on the right, close enough that one person could play on both keyboards.
 
DISCLAIMER: the 17-tone piano project is in no way affiliated with Rice University. it is not even an official Shepherd School of Music event, not being a senior or junior or masters or doctoral or faculty-sponsored recital. heck, it could completely fall through. but don't let that stop you.
 
**Questions? Click "edit" at the top of page, and add from here.**</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;SeventeenTonePianoProject&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Seventeen-Tone Piano Project involves tuning two acoustic pianos in seventeen equal tones per octave and then playing music on them.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Two pianos, located at Rice University's Shepherd School of Music (Houston, Texas), are tuned to 17-EDO. Why? How? I'm a student there, and they're very nice.&lt;br /&gt;
Two pianos, located at Rice University's Shepherd School of Music (Houston, Texas), are tuned to 17-EDO. Why? How? I'm a student there, and they're very nice.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/strong&gt;First, write a piece of music. Make sure you have an idea of how it will sound; that should be an important criterion in the creation. See below for technical assistance.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/strong&gt;First, write a piece of music. Make sure you have an idea of how it will sound; that should be an important criterion in the creation. See below for technical assistance.&lt;br /&gt;
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The deadline for submissions is &lt;strong&gt;Monday August 21 2006&lt;/strong&gt;. Prepare a score and get it to me. Email PDF files to udderbot at gmail dot com, or send paper scores to&lt;br /&gt;
The deadline for submissions is &lt;strong&gt;Sunday&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;August 27 2006&lt;/strong&gt;, but let me know you're thinking of submitting something. Prepare a score and get it to me. Email PDF files to udderbot at gmail dot com, or send paper scores to&lt;br /&gt;
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17 tone piano project&lt;br /&gt;
17 tone piano project&lt;br /&gt;
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Houston, TX 77005&lt;br /&gt;
Houston, TX 77005&lt;br /&gt;
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Then real live musicians will learn the music and there'll be a concert on &lt;strong&gt;Tuesday September 26 2006&lt;/strong&gt;. It'll be recorded. Heck, might even be webcast live.&lt;br /&gt;
Then real live musicians will learn the music and there'll be a &lt;strong&gt;CONCERT&lt;/strong&gt; on &lt;strong&gt;Tuesday September 26 2006&lt;/strong&gt;. It'll be recorded. Heck, might even be webcast live. The point is, it won't end there.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;Links...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;Music theory through the eyes of the 17 Tone Piano Project:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Music theory through the eyes of the 17 Tone Piano Project:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The layout of the two pianos in 17 is simple: following the&lt;br /&gt;
17-tone equal tuning has fifths very close to just-intonation (and 12-equal) fifths. Consequently we use the usual circle-of-fifths on a five-line-staff notation, with a twist of new enharmonics, caused by the accumulation of the difference in the size of the fifth. To figure out the enharmonic names of any closed circle of fifths, write out a portion of it, like:&lt;br /&gt;
circle-of-fifths naming system for 17, the white keys of both pianos&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
are tuned to the same (superpythagorean) C major scale. The piano&lt;br /&gt;
Cb Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#&lt;br /&gt;
called &amp;quot;flat&amp;quot; has black keys tuned to Db Eb Gb Ab Bb; the one called&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;sharp&amp;quot; has C# D# F# G# A#. 7+5+5=17. Remember, C# is HIGHER than&lt;br /&gt;
and then wrap it into a circle of the desired size (image forthcoming!). If you do this with 17, you will notice that Cb = A#...that's how big the value of &amp;quot;flat/sharp&amp;quot; is in 17. The closer two notes are in the circle, the more familiar to us their harmonic function.&lt;br /&gt;
Db! The setup has been to set the two pianos at a right angle, with&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
flats on the left, sharps on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
(need an image with the cents values, pitch classes, and ascending notation here).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note that C# is HIGHER than Db; the &amp;quot;half step&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;minor second&amp;quot; in 17 is twice as small as the &amp;quot;augmented unison&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;sharp&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;flat.&amp;quot; Two sharp/flats add up to a minor third. Two &amp;quot;neutral thirds&amp;quot; add up to a &amp;quot;perfect fifth.&amp;quot; These last two properties are shared by 17 and 24 (quartertones).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;Notation convention.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Following the circle-of-fifths naming system for 17, the white keys of both pianos are tuned identically, to the (notated) C major scale. The pian called &amp;quot;flat&amp;quot; has black keys tuned to Db Eb Gb Ab Bb; the one called &amp;quot;sharp&amp;quot; has C# D# F# G# A#. IThis way we get 7+5+5 = 17 notes.&lt;br /&gt;
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In scores with separate staves for each piano, it is not necessary to spell chords with these distinctions; notating intervals in their most common appearance is recommended, e.g. &amp;quot;Eb to C on the sharp piano&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;D# to C.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The pianos (baby grands, did I mention playing inside the piano is OK?) will be set up at a right angle, with flats on the left, sharps on the right, close enough that one person could play on both keyboards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISCLAIMER: the 17-tone piano project is in no way affiliated with&lt;br /&gt;
DISCLAIMER: the 17-tone piano project is in no way affiliated with Rice University. it is not even an official Shepherd School of Music event, not being a senior or junior or masters or doctoral or faculty-sponsored recital. heck, it could completely fall through. but don't let that stop you.&lt;br /&gt;
Rice University. it is not even an official Shepherd School of Music&lt;br /&gt;
event, not being a senior or junior or masters or doctoral or&lt;br /&gt;
faculty-sponsored recital. heck, it could completely fall through. but&lt;br /&gt;
don't let that stop you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Questions? Click &amp;quot;edit&amp;quot; at the top of page.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
&lt;strong&gt;Questions? Click &amp;quot;edit&amp;quot; at the top of page, and add from here.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>