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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The 5-limit parent comma for the semicomma family is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. Orson, the [[5-limit]] temperament tempering it out, has a [[generator]] of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example [[53edo]] or [[84edo]]. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five [[cent]]s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The 5-limit parent comma for the semicomma family is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. Orson, the [[5-limit]] temperament tempering it out, has a [[generator]] of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example [[53edo]] or [[84edo]]. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five [[cent]]s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.
Map: [&lt;1 0 3|, &lt;0 7 -3|]
EDOs: 22, 31, 53, 190, 253, 296


==Seven limit children==  
==Seven limit children==  
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|42/17 -6/17 3/17 0&gt;, |41/17 16/17 -8/17 0&gt;]
|42/17 -6/17 3/17 0&gt;, |41/17 16/17 -8/17 0&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 10/9
[[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 10/9
Map: [&lt;1 0 3 1|, &lt;0 7 -3 8|]
EDOs: 22, 31, 53, 84, 137


Algebraic generators: Sabra3, the real root of 12x^3-7x-48.  
Algebraic generators: Sabra3, the real root of 12x^3-7x-48.  
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[[Minimax tuning]]
[[Minimax tuning]]
 
[|1 0 0 0 0&gt;, |14/11 0 -7/11 7/11 0&gt;, |27/11 0 3/11 -3/11 0&gt;,
|27/11 0 -8/11 8/11 0&gt;, |37/11 0 -2/11 2/11 0&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 7/5
[[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzos]]: 2, 7/5


Map: [&lt;1 0 3 1 3|, &lt;0 7 -3 8 2|]
Map: [&lt;1 0 3 1 3|, &lt;0 7 -3 8 2|]
[[edo|Edos]]: [[31edo|31]], [[53edo|53]], [[84edo|84]]
[[edo|Edos]]: [[31edo|31]], [[53edo|53]], [[84edo|84]]
EDOs: 22, 31, 53


==Music==  
==Music==  
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Semicomma family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The 5-limit parent comma for the semicomma family is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&amp;gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. Orson, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; temperament tempering it out, has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Semicomma family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The 5-limit parent comma for the semicomma family is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&amp;gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. Orson, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; temperament tempering it out, has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 3|, &amp;lt;0 7 -3|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 31, 53, 190, 253, 296&lt;br /&gt;
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|42/17 -6/17 3/17 0&amp;gt;, |41/17 16/17 -8/17 0&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
|42/17 -6/17 3/17 0&amp;gt;, |41/17 16/17 -8/17 0&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo"&gt;Eigenmonzos&lt;/a&gt;: 2, 10/9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo"&gt;Eigenmonzos&lt;/a&gt;: 2, 10/9&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 3 1|, &amp;lt;0 7 -3 8|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 31, 53, 84, 137&lt;br /&gt;
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Algebraic generators: Sabra3, the real root of 12x^3-7x-48. &lt;br /&gt;
Algebraic generators: Sabra3, the real root of 12x^3-7x-48. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Minimax%20tuning"&gt;Minimax tuning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Minimax%20tuning"&gt;Minimax tuning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[|1 0 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |14/11 0 -7/11 7/11 0&amp;gt;, |27/11 0 3/11 -3/11 0&amp;gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
|27/11 0 -8/11 8/11 0&amp;gt;, |37/11 0 -2/11 2/11 0&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo"&gt;Eigenmonzos&lt;/a&gt;: 2, 7/5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Eigenmonzo"&gt;Eigenmonzos&lt;/a&gt;: 2, 7/5&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 3 1 3|, &amp;lt;0 7 -3 8 2|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 3 1 3|, &amp;lt;0 7 -3 8 2|]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/edo"&gt;Edos&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/edo"&gt;Edos&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 31, 53&lt;br /&gt;
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