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[[Orwell#Music|Music in Orwell]]


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=Music=
[[http://www.archive.org/details/TrioInOrwell|Trio in Orwell]] [[http://www.archive.org/download/TrioInOrwell/TrioInOrwell.mp3|play]] by [[Gene Ward Smith]]
[[http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9101705|one drop of rain]], [[http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9101704|i've come with a bucket of roses]], and [[http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8839071|my own house]] by [[Andrew Heathwaite]]
[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/orwell/daily20100721-gpo-owellian-cameras.mp3|Orwellian Cameras]] by [[Chris Vaisvil]]</pre></div>
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  The 5-limit parent comma for the &lt;strong&gt;semicomma family&lt;/strong&gt; is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&amp;gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. &lt;strong&gt;Orson&lt;/strong&gt;, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; temperament tempering it out, has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
  The 5-limit parent comma for the &lt;strong&gt;semicomma family&lt;/strong&gt; is the semicomma, 2109375/2097152 = |-21 3 7&amp;gt;. This is the amount by which three pure 3/1 twelfths exceed seven pure 8/5 minor thirds. &lt;strong&gt;Orson&lt;/strong&gt;, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; temperament tempering it out, has a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; of 75/64, which is sharper than 7/6 by 225/224 when untempered, and less sharp than that in any good orson tempering, for example &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;. These give tunings to the generator which are sharp of 7/6 by less than five &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, making it hard to treat orson as anything other than an (at least) 7-limit system, leading to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.archive.org/details/TrioInOrwell" rel="nofollow"&gt;Trio in Orwell&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.archive.org/download/TrioInOrwell/TrioInOrwell.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;play&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gene%20Ward%20Smith"&gt;Gene Ward Smith&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9101705" rel="nofollow"&gt;one drop of rain&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9101704" rel="nofollow"&gt;i've come with a bucket of roses&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8839071" rel="nofollow"&gt;my own house&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Andrew%20Heathwaite"&gt;Andrew Heathwaite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/orwell/daily20100721-gpo-owellian-cameras.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Orwellian Cameras&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Chris%20Vaisvil"&gt;Chris Vaisvil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>