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: This revision was by author [[User:genewardsmith|genewardsmith]] and made on <tt>2014-04-24 11:41:07 UTC</tt>.<br>
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<h4>Original Wikitext content:</h4>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc]]
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&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: right;"&gt;Other languages: [[xenharmonie/Schismatische Temperaturen|Deutsch]]
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=Five limit=  
=Five limit=  
The 5-limit parent comma for the schismatic family is the [[schisma]] of 32805/32768, which is the amount by which the Pythagorean comma exceeds the [[Didymus comma]] ([[81_80|81/80]]), or alternatively put, the difference between a just major third and a Pythagorean diminished fourth. Its [[monzo]] is |-15 8 1&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;1 -8 -15|| for the [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]]. This tells us the generator is a fifth and that we will need eight fourths in succession to reach the pitch class of a major third. In fact, 10 = (4/3)^8 * 32805/32768.
The 5-limit parent comma for the schismatic family is the [[schisma]] of 32805/32768, which is the amount by which the Pythagorean comma exceeds the [[Didymus comma]] ([[81_80|81/80]]), or alternatively put, the difference between a just major third and a Pythagorean diminished fourth. Its [[monzo]] is |-15 8 1&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;1 -8 -15|| for the [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]]. This tells us the generator is a fifth and that we will need eight fourths in succession to reach the pitch class of a major third. In fact, 10 = (4/3)^8 * 32805/32768.
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Badness: 0.0319
Badness: 0.0319


==13-limit==
==13-limit==  
Commas: 540/539, 729/728, 4000/3993, 4225/4224
Commas: 540/539, 729/728, 4000/3993, 4225/4224


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Badness: 0.0175
Badness: 0.0175


=Sanjaab=
=Sanjaab=  
Commas: 225/224, 3125/3087, 1331/1323
Commas: 225/224, 3125/3087, 1331/1323


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Badness: 0.0580
Badness: 0.0580


==13-limit==
==13-limit==  
Commas: 225/224, 275/273, 847/845, 1331/1323
Commas: 225/224, 275/273, 847/845, 1331/1323


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Badness: 0.0338
Badness: 0.0338


=Squirrel=
=Squirrel=  
Commmas: 686/675, 32805/32768
Commmas: 686/675, 32805/32768


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Badness: 0.1747
Badness: 0.1747


==11-limit==
==11-limit==  
Commas: 245/242, 686/675, 896/891
Commas: 245/242, 686/675, 896/891


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Badness: 0.0683
Badness: 0.0683


==13-limit==
==13-limit==  
Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 245/242, 896/891
Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 245/242, 896/891


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Badness: 0.0293
Badness: 0.0293


===13-limit===
===13-limit===  
Commas: 243/242, 364/363, 441/440, 105644/105625
Commas: 243/242, 364/363, 441/440, 105644/105625


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Badness: 0.0224
Badness: 0.0224


==Bisesqui==
==Bisesqui==  
Commas: 2401/2400, 9801/9800, 32805/32768
Commas: 2401/2400, 9801/9800, 32805/32768


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Badness: 0.0315
Badness: 0.0315


==13-limit==
==13-limit==  
Commas: 540/539, 1375/1372, 4096/4095, 6656/6655
Commas: 540/539, 1375/1372, 4096/4095, 6656/6655


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  The 5-limit parent comma for the schismatic family is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/schisma"&gt;schisma&lt;/a&gt; of 32805/32768, which is the amount by which the Pythagorean comma exceeds the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Didymus%20comma"&gt;Didymus comma&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;81/80&lt;/a&gt;), or alternatively put, the difference between a just major third and a Pythagorean diminished fourth. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |-15 8 1&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;1 -8 -15|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the generator is a fifth and that we will need eight fourths in succession to reach the pitch class of a major third. In fact, 10 = (4/3)^8 * 32805/32768.&lt;br /&gt;
  The 5-limit parent comma for the schismatic family is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/schisma"&gt;schisma&lt;/a&gt; of 32805/32768, which is the amount by which the Pythagorean comma exceeds the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Didymus%20comma"&gt;Didymus comma&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;81/80&lt;/a&gt;), or alternatively put, the difference between a just major third and a Pythagorean diminished fourth. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |-15 8 1&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;1 -8 -15|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the generator is a fifth and that we will need eight fourths in succession to reach the pitch class of a major third. In fact, 10 = (4/3)^8 * 32805/32768.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 540/539, 729/728, 4000/3993, 4225/4224&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 540/539, 729/728, 4000/3993, 4225/4224&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~9/7 = 433.911&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 433.911&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:34:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc17"&gt;&lt;a name="Sanjaab"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:34 --&gt;Sanjaab&lt;/h1&gt;
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Commas: 225/224, 3125/3087, 1331/1323&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 225/224, 3125/3087, 1331/1323&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~11/10 = 165.974&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 165.974&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:36:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc18"&gt;&lt;a name="Sanjaab-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:36 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
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Commas: 225/224, 275/273, 847/845, 1331/1323&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 225/224, 275/273, 847/845, 1331/1323&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~11/10 = 165.963&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 165.963&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:38:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc19"&gt;&lt;a name="Squirrel"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:38 --&gt;Squirrel&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:38:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc19"&gt;&lt;a name="Squirrel"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:38 --&gt;Squirrel&lt;/h1&gt;
Commmas: 686/675, 32805/32768&lt;br /&gt;
Commmas: 686/675, 32805/32768&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~160/147 = 166.140&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~160/147 = 166.140&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:40:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc20"&gt;&lt;a name="Squirrel-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:40 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
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Commas: 245/242, 686/675, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 245/242, 686/675, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~11/10 = 166.097&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 166.097&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:42:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc21"&gt;&lt;a name="Squirrel-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:42 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
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Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 245/242, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 245/242, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~11/10 = 166.054&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 166.054&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 243/242, 364/363, 441/440, 105644/105625&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 243/242, 364/363, 441/440, 105644/105625&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~256/231 = 175.409&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~256/231 = 175.409&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:72:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc36"&gt;&lt;a name="Sesquiquartififths-Bisesqui"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:72 --&gt;Bisesqui&lt;/h2&gt;
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Commas: 2401/2400, 9801/9800, 32805/32768&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 2401/2400, 9801/9800, 32805/32768&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~448/405 = 175.435&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~448/405 = 175.435&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 540/539, 1375/1372, 4096/4095, 6656/6655&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 540/539, 1375/1372, 4096/4095, 6656/6655&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~56/45 = 380.351&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~56/45 = 380.351&lt;br /&gt;