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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Ragismic microtemperaments</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule: | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Ragismic microtemperaments</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:74:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@normal&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaToc&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/normal?w=225&amp;h=100&quot;/&gt; --><div id="toc"><h1 class="nopad">Table of Contents</h1><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:74 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:75: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#Ennealimmal">Ennealimmal</a></div> | ||
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<!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:112 -->The ragisma is 4375/4374 with a monzo of |-1 -7 4 1&gt;, the smallest 7-limit superparticular ratio. Since (10/9)^4 4375/4374 * 32/21, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low complexity in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at microtemperaments the word &quot;relatively&quot; should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have 7/6 = 4375/4374 * (27/25)^2, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low complexity, with the same caveat about &quot;relatively&quot;; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.<br /> | |||
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The generator for amity temperament is the acute minor third, which means an ordinary 6/5 minor third raised by an 81/80 comma to 243/200, and from this it derives its name. Aside from the ragisma it tempers out the 5-limit amity comma, 1600000/1594323, 5120/5103 and 6144/6125. It can also be described as the 46&amp;53 temperament, or by its wedgie, &lt;&lt;5 13 -17 9 -41 -76||. <a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99edo</a> is a good tuning for amity, with generator 28/99, and MOS of 11, 18, 25, 32, 46 or 53 notes are available. If you are looking for a different kind of neutral third this could be the temperament for you.<br /> | The generator for amity temperament is the acute minor third, which means an ordinary 6/5 minor third raised by an 81/80 comma to 243/200, and from this it derives its name. Aside from the ragisma it tempers out the 5-limit amity comma, 1600000/1594323, 5120/5103 and 6144/6125. It can also be described as the 46&amp;53 temperament, or by its wedgie, &lt;&lt;5 13 -17 9 -41 -76||. <a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99edo</a> is a good tuning for amity, with generator 28/99, and MOS of 11, 18, 25, 32, 46 or 53 notes are available. If you are looking for a different kind of neutral third this could be the temperament for you.<br /> | ||
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In the 5-limit amity is a genuine microtemperament, with 58/205 being a possible tuning. Another good choice is (64/5)^(1/13), which gives pure major thirds.<br /> | In the 5-limit amity is a genuine microtemperament, with 58/205 being a possible tuning. Another good choice is (64/5)^(1/13), which gives pure major thirds.<br /> | ||
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Comma: 1600000/1594323<br /> | Comma: 1600000/1594323<br /> | ||
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Commas: 4375/4374, 5120/5103<br /> | Commas: 4375/4374, 5120/5103<br /> | ||
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Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 2200/2187<br /> | Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 2200/2187<br /> | ||
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Commas: 4375/4374, 5120/5103, 3025/3024<br /> | Commas: 4375/4374, 5120/5103, 3025/3024<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 14, 46, 106, 152, 350<br /> | EDOs: 14, 46, 106, 152, 350<br /> | ||
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In the 5-limit, parakleismic is an undoubted microtemperament, tempering out the parakleisma, |8 14 -13&gt;, with the <a class="wiki_link" href="/118edo">118edo</a> tuning giving errors well under a cent. It has a generator a very slightly (half a cent or less) flat 6/5, 13 of which give 32/3, and 14 64/5. However while 118 no longer has better than a cent of accuracy in the 7 or 11 limits, it is a decent temperament there nonetheless, and this allows an extension, with the 7-limit wedgie being &lt;&lt;13 14 35 -8 19 42|| and adding 3136/3125 and 4375/4374, and the 11-limit wedgie &lt;&lt;13 14 35 -36 ...|| adding 385/384. For the 7-limit <a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99edo</a> may be preferred, but in the 11-limit it is best to stick with 118.<br /> | In the 5-limit, parakleismic is an undoubted microtemperament, tempering out the parakleisma, |8 14 -13&gt;, with the <a class="wiki_link" href="/118edo">118edo</a> tuning giving errors well under a cent. It has a generator a very slightly (half a cent or less) flat 6/5, 13 of which give 32/3, and 14 64/5. However while 118 no longer has better than a cent of accuracy in the 7 or 11 limits, it is a decent temperament there nonetheless, and this allows an extension, with the 7-limit wedgie being &lt;&lt;13 14 35 -8 19 42|| and adding 3136/3125 and 4375/4374, and the 11-limit wedgie &lt;&lt;13 14 35 -36 ...|| adding 385/384. For the 7-limit <a class="wiki_link" href="/99edo">99edo</a> may be preferred, but in the 11-limit it is best to stick with 118.<br /> | ||
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Commas: 3136/3125, 4375/4374<br /> | Commas: 3136/3125, 4375/4374<br /> | ||
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Commas: 385/384, 3136/3125, 4375/4374<br /> | Commas: 385/384, 3136/3125, 4375/4374<br /> | ||
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Commas: 4375/4374, 823543/819200<br /> | Commas: 4375/4374, 823543/819200<br /> | ||
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Commas: 441/440, 4000/3993, 41503/41472<br /> | Commas: 441/440, 4000/3993, 41503/41472<br /> | ||
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Commas: 364/363, 441/440, 676/675, 4375/4374<br /> | Commas: 364/363, 441/440, 676/675, 4375/4374<br /> | ||
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Commas: 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 1001/1000, 1156/1155<br /> | Commas: 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 1001/1000, 1156/1155<br /> | ||
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Commas: 343/342, 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 676/675, 2601/2600<br /> | Commas: 343/342, 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 676/675, 2601/2600<br /> | ||
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