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Many projection pairs are given on the pages for various planar temperaments. When no subgroup is indicated, the default 2.3.5 5-limit subgroup is presumed. These lists of pairs can be copied and pasted into Scala and applied to any suitable JI scale.
Many projection pairs are given on the pages for various planar temperaments. When no subgroup is indicated, the default 2.3.5 5-limit subgroup is presumed. These lists of pairs can be copied and pasted into Scala and applied to any suitable JI scale.
=List of 5-limit projection pairs=
250/243: 3 729/250 5 59049/12500 to 2.9/5
81/80: 5 81/16
15625/15552: 3 46656/15625 5 15552/3125 to 2.5/3
32805/32768: 5 32768/6561


=List of 7-limit projection pairs=
=List of 7-limit projection pairs=
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Many projection pairs are given on the pages for various planar temperaments. When no subgroup is indicated, the default 2.3.5 5-limit subgroup is presumed. These lists of pairs can be copied and pasted into Scala and applied to any suitable JI scale.&lt;br /&gt;
Many projection pairs are given on the pages for various planar temperaments. When no subgroup is indicated, the default 2.3.5 5-limit subgroup is presumed. These lists of pairs can be copied and pasted into Scala and applied to any suitable JI scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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250/243: 3 729/250 5 59049/12500 to 2.9/5&lt;br /&gt;
81/80: 5 81/16&lt;br /&gt;
15625/15552: 3 46656/15625 5 15552/3125 to 2.5/3&lt;br /&gt;
32805/32768: 5 32768/6561 &lt;br /&gt;
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1029/1000: 3 1000/343 to 2.5.7&lt;br /&gt;
1029/1000: 3 1000/343 to 2.5.7&lt;br /&gt;
36/35: 7 36/5 &lt;br /&gt;
36/35: 7 36/5 &lt;br /&gt;

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By a //projection pair// is meant a pair of two rational intervals which can be employed by the [[Scala]] "project" command to reduce a JI scale to a scale in a [[JI subgroup]] of the group generated by the scale, in such a way that tempered versions of each are equivalent. This is particularly useful for analyzing [[planar temperaments]], as the projection can then be viewed in lattice form by Scala's "lattice" or "lattice and player" command. 

An example of a projection pair is "7 225/32", which when applied by Scala's "project" to a 7-limit scale produces a 5-limit scale, which when tempered by marvel (225/224) temperament gives exactly the same result as the original scale does when also tempered. More than one such pair may be required to reduce to the desired subgroup; for instance "7 225/32 11 4096/375" reduces an 11-limit JI scale to a 5-limit JI scale equivalent under (unidecimal) marvel. This can happen even when only one comma is involved (codimension one temperaments.) For instance, to project a 7-limit scale in the hemimean (3136/3125) reduction to the 2.5.7 subgroup requires "5 3136/625 7 68841472/9765625".

Many projection pairs are given on the pages for various planar temperaments. When no subgroup is indicated, the default 2.3.5 5-limit subgroup is presumed. These lists of pairs can be copied and pasted into Scala and applied to any suitable JI scale.

=List of 5-limit projection pairs=
250/243: 3 729/250 5 59049/12500 to 2.9/5
81/80: 5 81/16
15625/15552: 3 46656/15625 5 15552/3125 to 2.5/3
32805/32768: 5 32768/6561 

=List of 7-limit projection pairs=
1029/1000: 3 1000/343 to 2.5.7
36/35: 7 36/5 
525/512: 7 512/75
49/48: 3 49/16 to 2.5.7
686/675: 5 3375/686 7 675/98 to 2.3.7/5
64/63: 7 64/9
854296875/843308032: 5 843308032/170859375 7 5903156224/854296875 to 2.3.7/5
64827/64000: 5 320000/64827 7 64000/9261 to 2.3.7/5
875/864: 7 864/125
3125/3087: 5 15625/3087 7 9765625/1361367 to 2.3.25/7
2430/2401: 5 2401/486 to 2.3.7
50421/50000: 3 50000/16807 to 2.5.7
245/243: 5 243/49 to 2.3.7
126/125: 7 125/18
4000/3969: 5 3969/800 7 27783/4000 to 2.3.7/5
1728/1715: 5 1728/343 to 2.3.7
1029/1024: 3 1024/343 to 2.5.7
225/224: 7 225/32
19683/19600: 3 19600/6561 7 1033052339200000000/150094635296999121 to 2.5.81/7
16875/16807: 5 84375/16807 7 16875/2401 to 2.3.7/5
10976/10935: 5 10976/2187 to 2.3.7
3136/3125: 5 3136/625 7 68841472/9765625 to 2.3.25/7
5120/5103: 7 5120/729
6144/6125: 3 6125/2048 to 2.5.7
33554432/33480743: 7 33554432/4782969 
201768035/201326592: 5 201326592/40353607 to 2.3.7
65625/65536: 7 65536/9375
703125/702464: 5 702464/140625 7 3454189699072/494384765625 to 2.3.25/7
420175/419904: 5 882735153125/176319369216 7 419904/60025 to 2.3.245
2401/2400: 3 2401/800 to 2.5.7
4375/4374: 7 4374/625

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<html><head><title>Projection pair</title></head><body>By a <em>projection pair</em> is meant a pair of two rational intervals which can be employed by the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Scala">Scala</a> &quot;project&quot; command to reduce a JI scale to a scale in a <a class="wiki_link" href="/JI%20subgroup">JI subgroup</a> of the group generated by the scale, in such a way that tempered versions of each are equivalent. This is particularly useful for analyzing <a class="wiki_link" href="/planar%20temperaments">planar temperaments</a>, as the projection can then be viewed in lattice form by Scala's &quot;lattice&quot; or &quot;lattice and player&quot; command. <br />
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An example of a projection pair is &quot;7 225/32&quot;, which when applied by Scala's &quot;project&quot; to a 7-limit scale produces a 5-limit scale, which when tempered by marvel (225/224) temperament gives exactly the same result as the original scale does when also tempered. More than one such pair may be required to reduce to the desired subgroup; for instance &quot;7 225/32 11 4096/375&quot; reduces an 11-limit JI scale to a 5-limit JI scale equivalent under (unidecimal) marvel. This can happen even when only one comma is involved (codimension one temperaments.) For instance, to project a 7-limit scale in the hemimean (3136/3125) reduction to the 2.5.7 subgroup requires &quot;5 3136/625 7 68841472/9765625&quot;.<br />
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Many projection pairs are given on the pages for various planar temperaments. When no subgroup is indicated, the default 2.3.5 5-limit subgroup is presumed. These lists of pairs can be copied and pasted into Scala and applied to any suitable JI scale.<br />
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="List of 5-limit projection pairs"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->List of 5-limit projection pairs</h1>
250/243: 3 729/250 5 59049/12500 to 2.9/5<br />
81/80: 5 81/16<br />
15625/15552: 3 46656/15625 5 15552/3125 to 2.5/3<br />
32805/32768: 5 32768/6561 <br />
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc1"><a name="List of 7-limit projection pairs"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->List of 7-limit projection pairs</h1>
1029/1000: 3 1000/343 to 2.5.7<br />
36/35: 7 36/5 <br />
525/512: 7 512/75<br />
49/48: 3 49/16 to 2.5.7<br />
686/675: 5 3375/686 7 675/98 to 2.3.7/5<br />
64/63: 7 64/9<br />
854296875/843308032: 5 843308032/170859375 7 5903156224/854296875 to 2.3.7/5<br />
64827/64000: 5 320000/64827 7 64000/9261 to 2.3.7/5<br />
875/864: 7 864/125<br />
3125/3087: 5 15625/3087 7 9765625/1361367 to 2.3.25/7<br />
2430/2401: 5 2401/486 to 2.3.7<br />
50421/50000: 3 50000/16807 to 2.5.7<br />
245/243: 5 243/49 to 2.3.7<br />
126/125: 7 125/18<br />
4000/3969: 5 3969/800 7 27783/4000 to 2.3.7/5<br />
1728/1715: 5 1728/343 to 2.3.7<br />
1029/1024: 3 1024/343 to 2.5.7<br />
225/224: 7 225/32<br />
19683/19600: 3 19600/6561 7 1033052339200000000/150094635296999121 to 2.5.81/7<br />
16875/16807: 5 84375/16807 7 16875/2401 to 2.3.7/5<br />
10976/10935: 5 10976/2187 to 2.3.7<br />
3136/3125: 5 3136/625 7 68841472/9765625 to 2.3.25/7<br />
5120/5103: 7 5120/729<br />
6144/6125: 3 6125/2048 to 2.5.7<br />
33554432/33480743: 7 33554432/4782969 <br />
201768035/201326592: 5 201326592/40353607 to 2.3.7<br />
65625/65536: 7 65536/9375<br />
703125/702464: 5 702464/140625 7 3454189699072/494384765625 to 2.3.25/7<br />
420175/419904: 5 882735153125/176319369216 7 419904/60025 to 2.3.245<br />
2401/2400: 3 2401/800 to 2.5.7<br />
4375/4374: 7 4374/625</body></html>