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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc|flat]]
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[[toc|flat]]
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The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal [[diesis]] or porcupine comma. Its [[monzo]] is |1 -5 3&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;3 5 1|| for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the [[generator]] is a minor whole tone, the [[10_9|10/9]] interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.
The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal [[diesis]] or porcupine comma. Its [[monzo]] is |1 -5 3&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;3 5 1|| for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the [[generator]] is a minor whole tone, the [[10_9|10/9]] interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.
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valid range: [160.000, 162.162] (15 to 37)
valid range: [160.000, 162.162] (15 to 37)
nice range: [150.637, 182.404]
nice range: [150.637, 182.404]
strict range: [160.000, 162.162]
strict range: [160.000, 162.162]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 162.277
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 162.277
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Badness: 0.0273
Badness: 0.0273


==13-limit==
==13-limit==  
Commas: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 100/99  
Commas: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 100/99


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 164.953
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 164.953
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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 165.981
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 165.981
11-limit minimax eigenmonzo: 3/2  
11-limit minimax eigenmonzo: 3/2


Map: [&lt;1 2 3 1 4|, &lt;0 -3 -5 13 -4|]
Map: [&lt;1 2 3 1 4|, &lt;0 -3 -5 13 -4|]
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Badness: 0.0447</pre></div>
Badness: 0.0447</pre></div>
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The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/diesis"&gt;diesis&lt;/a&gt; or porcupine comma. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |1 -5 3&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 1|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; is a minor whole tone, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_9"&gt;10/9&lt;/a&gt; interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
The 5-limit parent comma for the porcupine family is 250/243, the maximal &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/diesis"&gt;diesis&lt;/a&gt; or porcupine comma. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |1 -5 3&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 5 1|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/generator"&gt;generator&lt;/a&gt; is a minor whole tone, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_9"&gt;10/9&lt;/a&gt; interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)^3 = 4/3 * 250/243, and (10/9)^5 = 8/5 * (250/243)^2. 3/22 is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [160.000, 162.162] (15 to 37)&lt;br /&gt;
valid range: [160.000, 162.162] (15 to 37)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [150.637, 182.404]&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [150.637, 182.404]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [160.000, 162.162]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [160.000, 162.162]&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 162.277&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 162.277&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 100/99 &lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 100/99&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 164.953&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 164.953&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 165.981&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 165.981&lt;br /&gt;
11-limit minimax eigenmonzo: 3/2 &lt;br /&gt;
11-limit minimax eigenmonzo: 3/2&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 2 3 1 4|, &amp;lt;0 -3 -5 13 -4|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 2 3 1 4|, &amp;lt;0 -3 -5 13 -4|]&lt;br /&gt;