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Alas there is! Ratios of 2 are the most common, and these are what the octave reduces, from the altissima 144th harmonic to the solid terrestrial 9/8 major second. So while the octave makes good sense as the equivalence, things do still occur, by and by, which may advantageously be reduced by tritaves, etc., so lets not dismiss the option entirely, and to lesser degrees up the number line.
Alas there is! Ratios of 2 are the most common, and these are what the octave reduces, from the altissima 144th harmonic to the solid terrestrial 9/8 major second. So while the octave makes good sense as the equivalence, things do still occur, by and by, which may advantageously be reduced by tritaves, etc., so lets not dismiss the option entirely, and to lesser degrees up the number line.


While this is but a rank-2 temperament, suppose more generators could be added, apply phi temperament to arbitrarily higher ranks? For the price of a 3/1 you get a 7/1 and so on. That's an interesting idea on its own but it gets even much better, when one considers periods. The period, as I imagine it and maybe I'm way off the mark mathematically, can be seen as an abstract, degenerate rank. It might not be immediately so, 600 cents hardly fills in for 701.955, but eventually it gets there, at very least with phi tunings. For the price of complexity one gets a different kind of simplicity.  
While this is but a rank-2 temperament, suppose more generators could be added, apply phi temperament to arbitrarily higher ranks? For the price of a 3/1 you get a 7/1 and so on. That's an interesting idea on its own but it gets even much better, when one considers periods. The period, as I imagine it and maybe I'm way off the mark mathematically, can be seen as an abstract, degenerate rank. It might not be immediately so, 600 cents hardly fills in for 701.955, but eventually it gets there, at very least with phi tunings. For the price of complexity one gets a different kind of simplicity.


(Heck maybe this is mathematical gibberish for you REAL mathematicians but it works for and makes intuitive sense to me.)
(Heck maybe this is mathematical gibberish for you REAL mathematicians but it works for and makes intuitive sense to me.)
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ET: [[23edo|23]] (30:69)
ET: [[23edo|23]] (30:69)
ET: [[36edo|36]] (30:39) best value!
ET: [[36edo|36]] (30:39) best value!
ET: [[119edo|119]] (8.749 : 12.675)
ET: [[121edo|121]] (8.749 : 12.675)


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Alas there is! Ratios of 2 are the most common, and these are what the octave reduces, from the altissima 144th harmonic to the solid terrestrial 9/8 major second. So while the octave makes good sense as the equivalence, things do still occur, by and by, which may advantageously be reduced by tritaves, etc., so lets not dismiss the option entirely, and to lesser degrees up the number line.&lt;br /&gt;
Alas there is! Ratios of 2 are the most common, and these are what the octave reduces, from the altissima 144th harmonic to the solid terrestrial 9/8 major second. So while the octave makes good sense as the equivalence, things do still occur, by and by, which may advantageously be reduced by tritaves, etc., so lets not dismiss the option entirely, and to lesser degrees up the number line.&lt;br /&gt;
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While this is but a rank-2 temperament, suppose more generators could be added, apply phi temperament to arbitrarily higher ranks? For the price of a 3/1 you get a 7/1 and so on. That's an interesting idea on its own but it gets even much better, when one considers periods. The period, as I imagine it and maybe I'm way off the mark mathematically, can be seen as an abstract, degenerate rank. It might not be immediately so, 600 cents hardly fills in for 701.955, but eventually it gets there, at very least with phi tunings. For the price of complexity one gets a different kind of simplicity. &lt;br /&gt;
While this is but a rank-2 temperament, suppose more generators could be added, apply phi temperament to arbitrarily higher ranks? For the price of a 3/1 you get a 7/1 and so on. That's an interesting idea on its own but it gets even much better, when one considers periods. The period, as I imagine it and maybe I'm way off the mark mathematically, can be seen as an abstract, degenerate rank. It might not be immediately so, 600 cents hardly fills in for 701.955, but eventually it gets there, at very least with phi tunings. For the price of complexity one gets a different kind of simplicity.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Heck maybe this is mathematical gibberish for you REAL mathematicians but it works for and makes intuitive sense to me.)&lt;br /&gt;
(Heck maybe this is mathematical gibberish for you REAL mathematicians but it works for and makes intuitive sense to me.)&lt;br /&gt;
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ET: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/23edo"&gt;23&lt;/a&gt; (30:69)&lt;br /&gt;
ET: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/23edo"&gt;23&lt;/a&gt; (30:69)&lt;br /&gt;
ET: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36edo"&gt;36&lt;/a&gt; (30:39) best value!&lt;br /&gt;
ET: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36edo"&gt;36&lt;/a&gt; (30:39) best value!&lt;br /&gt;
ET: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/119edo"&gt;119&lt;/a&gt; (8.749 : 12.675)&lt;br /&gt;
ET: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/121edo"&gt;121&lt;/a&gt; (8.749 : 12.675)&lt;br /&gt;
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