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||= {P8/2, P4/2} ||= half-octave, half-fourth ||= 25/24 &amp; 49/48 ||= decimal ||= deep yellow and deep blue ||= yy&amp;bbT ||
||= {P8/2, P4/2} ||= half-octave, half-fourth ||= 25/24 &amp; 49/48 ||= decimal ||= deep yellow and deep blue ||= yy&amp;bbT ||
||= {P8/4, P5} ||= quarter-octave ||= (3,4,-4) ||= diminished ||= quadruple green ||= g&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;T ||
||= {P8/4, P5} ||= quarter-octave ||= (3,4,-4) ||= diminished ||= quadruple green ||= g&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;T ||
The color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc. For quadruple colors, the multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8, a whole tone. For example, large quadruple jade tempers out (-17,2,0,0,4), and is {P8/2, M2/4} = half-octave, quarter-tone. For hextuple colors, the multi-gen may be the minor 3rd 32/27. These intervals may also be voiced wider, as 3/1, 9/4, etc. To avoid cumbersome degree names like 16th or 18th, for degrees above 12, the widening is indicated with one "W" per octave. Thus 27/8 = WM6, 9/2 = WWM2, etc. Thus magic is {P8, P12/5} = fifth-twelfth.
The color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc. For quadruple colors, the multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8, a whole tone. For example, large quadruple jade tempers out (-17,2,0,0,4), and is {P8/2, M2/4} = half-octave, quarter-tone. For nine-fold colors, the multi-gen may be the minor 3rd 32/27. These intervals may also be voiced wider, as 3/1, 9/4, etc. To avoid cumbersome degree names like 16th or 18th, for degrees above 12, the widening is indicated with one "W" per octave. Thus 27/8 = WM6, 9/2 = WWM2, etc. Thus magic is {P8, P12/5} = fifth-twelfth.


For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen usually (see the 1st example in the Derivation section) uses the first two primes only. [[Kite's color notation|Color notation ]]is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third (y3 = 5/4).
For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen usually (see the 1st example in the Derivation section) uses the first two primes only. [[Kite's color notation|Color notation ]]is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third (y3 = 5/4).
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=__Applications__=  
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Pergen sets allow a systematic exploration of notations for rank-2, rank-3, etc. regular temperaments, without having to examine each of the thousands of individual temperaments. For example, all fifth-based temperaments are notated identically. They require only conventional notation: 7 nominals, plus sharps and flats. But most rank-2 temperaments require an additional pair of accidentals, ups and downs. And certain rank-2 temperaments require another additional pair. Highs and lows are written / and \. Alternatively, color accidentals (y/g, r/b, j/a, etc.) could be used. However, this contrains a pergen to a specific temperament. For example, both mohajira and dicot are {P8, P5/2}. Using y/g implies dicot, using j/a implies mohajira, but using ^/v implies neither, and is a more general notation.
Pergen sets allow a systematic exploration of notations for rank-2, rank-3, etc. regular temperaments, without having to examine each of the thousands of individual temperaments. For example, all fifth-based temperaments are notated identically. They require only conventional notation: 7 nominals, plus sharps and flats. But most rank-2 temperaments require an additional pair of accidentals, ups and downs. And certain rank-2 temperaments require another additional pair, highs and lows, written / and \. Alternatively, color accidentals (y/g, r/b, j/a, etc.) could be used. However, this constrains a pergen to a specific temperament. For example, both mohajira and dicot are {P8, P5/2}. Using y/g implies dicot, using j/a implies mohajira, but using ^/v implies neither, and is a more general notation.


Analogous to 22-edo, sometimes additional accidentals aren't needed, but are desirable, to avoid misspelled chords. For example, schismic is fifth-based and can be notated conventionally. But this causes 4:5:6 to be spelled as C Fb G. With ^1 = 81/80, the chord can be spelled C Ev G.
Analogous to 22-edo, sometimes additional accidentals aren't needed, but are desirable, to avoid misspelled chords. For example, schismic is fifth-based and can be notated conventionally. But this causes 4:5:6 to be spelled as C Fb G. With ^1 = 81/80, the chord can be spelled C Ev G.


Not all possible combinations of periods and generators are unique pergens. {P8/2, P5/2} is actually {P8/2, P4/2}. There is no {P8, M2/2}, and {P8/2, M2/2} is actually {P8/2, P5}.  
Not all possible combinations of periods and generators are unique pergens. {P8/2, P5/2} is actually {P8/2, P4/2}. There is no {P8, M2/2}, and {P8/2, M2/2} is actually {P8/2, P5}. The following table lists all the rank-2 pergens that contain primes 2 and 3, grouped by the size of the larger splitting factor.
 
This table lists all unique rank-2 pergens, assuming primes 2 and 3, grouped by the size of the larger splitting factor.


The genchain shown is a short section of the full genchain. C - G implies ...Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C#... And C - Eb^=Ev - G implies ...F - Ab^=Av - C - Eb^=Ev - G - Bb^=Bv - D - F^=F#v - A - C^=C#v - E... If the octave is split, the genchain shows the octave: In C - F#v=Gb^ - C, the last C is an octave above the first one.
The genchain shown is a short section of the full genchain. C - G implies ...Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C#... And C - Eb^=Ev - G implies ...F - Ab^=Av - C - Eb^=Ev - G - Bb^=Bv - D - F^=F#v - A - C^=C#v - E... If the octave is split, the genchain shows the octave: In C - F#v=Gb^ - C, the last C is an octave above the first one.
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||= {P8/3, P4/3} ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||= 15, 21, 30* ||
||= {P8/3, P4/3} ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||= 15, 21, 30* ||
||~ quarters ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||
||~ quarters ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||~  ||
||= {P8/4, P5} ||=  ||= P8/4 = vm3 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;d2
||= {P8/4, P5} ||=  ||= P8/4 = vm3 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;A2
(^/v may reverse) ||= v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;d2 ||= C Ebv Gbbvv A^ C ||=   ||= 12, 16, 20, 24*, 28 ||
(^/v may reverse) ||= v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;d2 ||= C Ebv Gbvv A^ C ||= diminished,
^1 = 81/80 ||= 12, 16, 20, 24*, 28 ||
||= {P8, P4/4} ||=  ||= P4/4 = ^m2 = v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;AA1 ||= ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;dd2 ||= C Db^ Ebb^^ Ev F ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8, P4/4} ||=  ||= P4/4 = ^m2 = v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;AA1 ||= ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;dd2 ||= C Db^ Ebb^^ Ev F ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8, P5/4} ||=  ||= P5/4 = vM2 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;m2 ||= v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;A1 || C Dv Evv F^ G^ ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8, P5/4} ||=  ||= P5/4 = vM2 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;m2 ||= v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;A1 || C Dv Evv F^ G^ ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8, P11/4} ||=  ||=   ||=   ||=   ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8, P11/4} ||=  || P11/4 = ^M3 = v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;dd5 ||= v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;dd3 ||= C E^ G#^^ Dbv F ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8, P12/4} ||=  ||=   ||=   ||=   ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8, P12/4} ||=  || P12/4 = vP4 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;M3 ||= v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;m2 ||= C Fv Bbvv D^ G ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8/4, P4/2} ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8/4, P4/2} ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8/2, P4/4} ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||
||= {P8/2, P4/4} ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||=  ||
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The color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc. For quadruple colors, the multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8, a whole tone. For example, large quadruple jade tempers out (-17,2,0,0,4), and is {P8/2, M2/4} = half-octave, quarter-tone. For hextuple colors, the multi-gen may be the minor 3rd 32/27. These intervals may also be voiced wider, as 3/1, 9/4, etc. To avoid cumbersome degree names like 16th or 18th, for degrees above 12, the widening is indicated with one &amp;quot;W&amp;quot; per octave. Thus 27/8 = WM6, 9/2 = WWM2, etc. Thus magic is {P8, P12/5} = fifth-twelfth.&lt;br /&gt;
The color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc. For quadruple colors, the multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8, a whole tone. For example, large quadruple jade tempers out (-17,2,0,0,4), and is {P8/2, M2/4} = half-octave, quarter-tone. For nine-fold colors, the multi-gen may be the minor 3rd 32/27. These intervals may also be voiced wider, as 3/1, 9/4, etc. To avoid cumbersome degree names like 16th or 18th, for degrees above 12, the widening is indicated with one &amp;quot;W&amp;quot; per octave. Thus 27/8 = WM6, 9/2 = WWM2, etc. Thus magic is {P8, P12/5} = fifth-twelfth.&lt;br /&gt;
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For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen usually (see the 1st example in the Derivation section) uses the first two primes only. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Kite%27s%20color%20notation"&gt;Color notation &lt;/a&gt;is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third (y3 = 5/4).&lt;br /&gt;
For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen usually (see the 1st example in the Derivation section) uses the first two primes only. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Kite%27s%20color%20notation"&gt;Color notation &lt;/a&gt;is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third (y3 = 5/4).&lt;br /&gt;
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Pergen sets allow a systematic exploration of notations for rank-2, rank-3, etc. regular temperaments, without having to examine each of the thousands of individual temperaments. For example, all fifth-based temperaments are notated identically. They require only conventional notation: 7 nominals, plus sharps and flats. But most rank-2 temperaments require an additional pair of accidentals, ups and downs. And certain rank-2 temperaments require another additional pair. Highs and lows are written / and \. Alternatively, color accidentals (y/g, r/b, j/a, etc.) could be used. However, this contrains a pergen to a specific temperament. For example, both mohajira and dicot are {P8, P5/2}. Using y/g implies dicot, using j/a implies mohajira, but using ^/v implies neither, and is a more general notation.&lt;br /&gt;
Pergen sets allow a systematic exploration of notations for rank-2, rank-3, etc. regular temperaments, without having to examine each of the thousands of individual temperaments. For example, all fifth-based temperaments are notated identically. They require only conventional notation: 7 nominals, plus sharps and flats. But most rank-2 temperaments require an additional pair of accidentals, ups and downs. And certain rank-2 temperaments require another additional pair, highs and lows, written / and \. Alternatively, color accidentals (y/g, r/b, j/a, etc.) could be used. However, this constrains a pergen to a specific temperament. For example, both mohajira and dicot are {P8, P5/2}. Using y/g implies dicot, using j/a implies mohajira, but using ^/v implies neither, and is a more general notation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Analogous to 22-edo, sometimes additional accidentals aren't needed, but are desirable, to avoid misspelled chords. For example, schismic is fifth-based and can be notated conventionally. But this causes 4:5:6 to be spelled as C Fb G. With ^1 = 81/80, the chord can be spelled C Ev G.&lt;br /&gt;
Analogous to 22-edo, sometimes additional accidentals aren't needed, but are desirable, to avoid misspelled chords. For example, schismic is fifth-based and can be notated conventionally. But this causes 4:5:6 to be spelled as C Fb G. With ^1 = 81/80, the chord can be spelled C Ev G.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not all possible combinations of periods and generators are unique pergens. {P8/2, P5/2} is actually {P8/2, P4/2}. There is no {P8, M2/2}, and {P8/2, M2/2} is actually {P8/2, P5}. &lt;br /&gt;
Not all possible combinations of periods and generators are unique pergens. {P8/2, P5/2} is actually {P8/2, P4/2}. There is no {P8, M2/2}, and {P8/2, M2/2} is actually {P8/2, P5}. The following table lists all the rank-2 pergens that contain primes 2 and 3, grouped by the size of the larger splitting factor.&lt;br /&gt;
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This table lists all unique rank-2 pergens, assuming primes 2 and 3, grouped by the size of the larger splitting factor.&lt;br /&gt;
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The genchain shown is a short section of the full genchain. C - G implies ...Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C#... And C - Eb^=Ev - G implies ...F - Ab^=Av - C - Eb^=Ev - G - Bb^=Bv - D - F^=F#v - A - C^=C#v - E... If the octave is split, the genchain shows the octave: In C - F#v=Gb^ - C, the last C is an octave above the first one.&lt;br /&gt;
The genchain shown is a short section of the full genchain. C - G implies ...Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C#... And C - Eb^=Ev - G implies ...F - Ab^=Av - C - Eb^=Ev - G - Bb^=Bv - D - F^=F#v - A - C^=C#v - E... If the octave is split, the genchain shows the octave: In C - F#v=Gb^ - C, the last C is an octave above the first one.&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;P8/4 = vm3 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;d2&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;P8/4 = vm3 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;A2&lt;br /&gt;
(^/v may reverse)&lt;br /&gt;
(^/v may reverse)&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;d2&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;C Ebv Gbbvv A^ C&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;C Ebv Gbvv A^ C&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;diminished,&lt;br /&gt;
^1 = 81/80&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;12, 16, 20, 24*, 28&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;P11/4 = ^M3 = v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;dd5&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;P12/4 = vP4 = ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;M3&lt;br /&gt;
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