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For example, small triple amber tempers out (12,-1,0,0,-3) from 2.3.11, making a third-11th pergen. The generator is 11/8. If 11/8 is notated as ^P4, the enharmonic is v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;M2, but if 11/8 is notated as vA4, the enharmonic is ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;dd2.
For example, small triple amber tempers out (12,-1,0,0,-3) from 2.3.11, making a third-11th pergen. The generator is 11/8. If 11/8 is notated as ^P4, the enharmonic is v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;M2, but if 11/8 is notated as vA4, the enharmonic is ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;dd2.


This is all for single-comma temperaments. Each comma of a multiple-comma temperament also implies an enharmonic, and they may conflict. True double pergens, which are always multi-comma, tend to have multiple notations. For example, the half-everything pergen has 3 possible notations, all equally valid. Even single-split pergens can have multiple commas that imply different enharmonics. So alternate enharmonics are needed sometimes.
This is all for single-comma temperaments. Each comma of a multiple-comma temperament also implies an enharmonic, and they may conflict. True double pergens, which are always multi-comma, tend to have multiple notations. For example, the half-everything pergen has 3 possible notations, all equally valid. Even single-split pergens can have multiple commas that imply different enharmonics.  
 
Sometimes the temperament implies an enharmonic that isn't even a 2nd. For example, liese is (P8, P11/3), with G = 7/5 = d5. E = 3·d5 - P11 = descending dd3.


==Alternate keyspans and stepspans==  
==Alternate keyspans and stepspans==  
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||= 8L 2s ||= (P8/2, P4/4) [10] ||= half-8ve quarter-4th decatonic ||&lt; half-8ve quarter-12th ||
||= 8L 2s ||= (P8/2, P4/4) [10] ||= half-8ve quarter-4th decatonic ||&lt; half-8ve quarter-12th ||
||= 9L 1s ||= (P8, P4/2) [10] ||= quarter-4th decatonic ||&lt;  ||
||= 9L 1s ||= (P8, P4/2) [10] ||= quarter-4th decatonic ||&lt;  ||
4L 2s can be (


==Combining pergens==  
==Combining pergens==  
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For example, small triple amber tempers out (12,-1,0,0,-3) from 2.3.11, making a third-11th pergen. The generator is 11/8. If 11/8 is notated as ^P4, the enharmonic is v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;M2, but if 11/8 is notated as vA4, the enharmonic is ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;dd2.&lt;br /&gt;
For example, small triple amber tempers out (12,-1,0,0,-3) from 2.3.11, making a third-11th pergen. The generator is 11/8. If 11/8 is notated as ^P4, the enharmonic is v&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;M2, but if 11/8 is notated as vA4, the enharmonic is ^&lt;span style="vertical-align: super;"&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;dd2.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is all for single-comma temperaments. Each comma of a multiple-comma temperament also implies an enharmonic, and they may conflict. True double pergens, which are always multi-comma, tend to have multiple notations. For example, the half-everything pergen has 3 possible notations, all equally valid. Even single-split pergens can have multiple commas that imply different enharmonics. So alternate enharmonics are needed sometimes.&lt;br /&gt;
This is all for single-comma temperaments. Each comma of a multiple-comma temperament also implies an enharmonic, and they may conflict. True double pergens, which are always multi-comma, tend to have multiple notations. For example, the half-everything pergen has 3 possible notations, all equally valid. Even single-split pergens can have multiple commas that imply different enharmonics. &lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes the temperament implies an enharmonic that isn't even a 2nd. For example, liese is (P8, P11/3), with G = 7/5 = d5. E = 3·d5 - P11 = descending dd3.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pergens were discovered by Kite Giedraitis in 2017, and developed with the help of Praveen Venkataramana. Earlier drafts of this article can be found at &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextUrlRule:3829:http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/pergen+names --&gt;&lt;a href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/pergen+names"&gt;http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/pergen+names&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextUrlRule:3829 --&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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