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**Mode numbers** provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like [[xenharmonic/Modal UDP notation|Modal UDP notation]], it starts with the convention of using //some-temperament-name//[//some-number//] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely. For example, here are all the modes of Meantone[7], using ~3/2 as the generator: | **Mode numbers** provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like [[xenharmonic/Modal UDP notation|Modal UDP notation]], it starts with the convention of using //some-temperament-name//[//some-number//] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely. For example, here are all the modes of Meantone[7], using ~3/2 as the generator: | ||
|| old scale name || new scale name || sL pattern || example on white keys || genchain || | || old scale name || new scale name || sL pattern || example on white keys || genchain || | ||
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|| Locrian || 7th Meantone [7] || sLLs LLL || C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C || Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F __**C**__ || | || Locrian || 7th Meantone [7] || sLLs LLL || C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C || Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F __**C**__ || | ||
The octave inverse of a generator is also a generator. To avoid ambiguity in mode numbers, the smaller of the two generators is chosen. An exception is made for 3/2, which is preferred over 4/3 for historical reasons (see below). **__Unlike modal UDP notation, the generator isn't always chroma-positive__.** There are several disadvantages of only using chroma-positive generators, see [[ | The octave inverse of a generator is also a generator. To avoid ambiguity in mode numbers, the smaller of the two generators is chosen. An exception is made for 3/2, which is preferred over 4/3 for historical reasons (see below). **__Unlike modal UDP notation, the generator isn't always chroma-positive__.** There are several disadvantages of only using chroma-positive generators, see [[Naming Rank-2 Scales using Mode Numbers#Why not just use UDP notation?|Why not just use UDP notation?]] below. | ||
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===__**Why not just use UDP notation?**__=== | ===[#Why not just use UDP notation?]]__**Why not just use UDP notation?**__=== | ||
One problem with [[Modal UDP Notation|UDP]] is that avoiding chroma-negative generators causes the genchain to reverse direction frequently as you lengthen or shorten it, which affects the mode names. If exploring the various MOS's of a temperament, one has to constantly check the genchain direction. In Mode Numbers notation, the direction is unchanging. | One problem with [[Modal UDP Notation|UDP]] is that avoiding chroma-negative generators causes the genchain to reverse direction frequently as you lengthen or shorten it, which affects the mode names. If exploring the various MOS's of a temperament, one has to constantly check the genchain direction. In Mode Numbers notation, the direction is unchanging. | ||
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Also, when comparing different MOS's of a temperament, with Mode Numbers notation but not with UDP, the Nth mode of the smaller MOS is always a subset of the Nth mode of the larger MOS. For example, Meantone [5] is generated by 3/2, not 4/3 as with UDP. Because Meantone [5] and Meantone [7] have the same generator, C 2nd Meantone [5] = C D F G A C is a subset of C 2nd Meantone [7] = C D E F G A B C. But using UDP, C Meantone 3|1 = C Eb F G Bb C isn't a subset of C Meantone 5|1 = C D E F G A B C. | Also, when comparing different MOS's of a temperament, with Mode Numbers notation but not with UDP, the Nth mode of the smaller MOS is always a subset of the Nth mode of the larger MOS. For example, Meantone [5] is generated by 3/2, not 4/3 as with UDP. Because Meantone [5] and Meantone [7] have the same generator, C 2nd Meantone [5] = C D F G A C is a subset of C 2nd Meantone [7] = C D E F G A B C. But using UDP, C Meantone 3|1 = C Eb F G Bb C isn't a subset of C Meantone 5|1 = C D E F G A B C. | ||
Furthermore, UDP uses the more mathematical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_numbering|zero-based counting]] and Mode Numbers notation uses the more intuitive one-based counting. UDP is mathematician-oriented whereas Mode Numbers notation is musician-oriented. | Furthermore, UDP uses the more mathematical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_numbering|zero-based counting]] and Mode Numbers notation uses the more intuitive one-based counting. UDP is mathematician-oriented whereas Mode Numbers notation is musician-oriented.</pre></div> | ||
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<!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:34 --> | <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:34 --><strong>Mode numbers</strong> provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Modal%20UDP%20notation">Modal UDP notation</a>, it starts with the convention of using <em>some-temperament-name</em>[<em>some-number</em>] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely. For example, here are all the modes of Meantone[7], using ~3/2 as the generator:<br /> | ||
<strong>Mode numbers</strong> provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Modal%20UDP%20notation">Modal UDP notation</a>, it starts with the convention of using <em>some-temperament-name</em>[<em>some-number</em>] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely. For example, here are all the modes of Meantone[7], using ~3/2 as the generator:<br /> | |||
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The octave inverse of a generator is also a generator. To avoid ambiguity in mode numbers, the smaller of the two generators is chosen. An exception is made for 3/2, which is preferred over 4/3 for historical reasons (see below). <strong><u>Unlike modal UDP notation, the generator isn't always chroma-positive</u>.</strong> There are several disadvantages of only using chroma-positive generators, see <a class=" | The octave inverse of a generator is also a generator. To avoid ambiguity in mode numbers, the smaller of the two generators is chosen. An exception is made for 3/2, which is preferred over 4/3 for historical reasons (see below). <strong><u>Unlike modal UDP notation, the generator isn't always chroma-positive</u>.</strong> There are several disadvantages of only using chroma-positive generators, see <a class="wiki_link" href="/Naming%20Rank-2%20Scales%20using%20Mode%20Numbers#Why not just use UDP notation?">Why not just use UDP notation?</a> below.<br /> | ||
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Pentatonic meantone scales:<br /> | Pentatonic meantone scales:<br /> | ||
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One problem with <a class="wiki_link" href="/Modal%20UDP%20Notation">UDP</a> is that avoiding chroma-negative generators causes the genchain to reverse direction frequently as you lengthen or shorten it, which affects the mode names. If exploring the various MOS's of a temperament, one has to constantly check the genchain direction. In Mode Numbers notation, the direction is unchanging.<br /> | One problem with <a class="wiki_link" href="/Modal%20UDP%20Notation">UDP</a> is that avoiding chroma-negative generators causes the genchain to reverse direction frequently as you lengthen or shorten it, which affects the mode names. If exploring the various MOS's of a temperament, one has to constantly check the genchain direction. In Mode Numbers notation, the direction is unchanging.<br /> |