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=Jake Freivald method=  
=Jake Freivald method=  
My goals for numbering the modes are to make it as simple as possible for people to identify and use the modes they're talking about. As such, desired characteristics include  
My goals for numbering the modes are to make it as simple as possible for people to identify and use the modes they're talking about. As such, desired characteristics include
(1) as little knowledge needed as possible, to help the less-sophisticated user,  
(1) as little knowledge needed as possible, to help the less-sophisticated user,
(2) reasonably intuitive if possible,  
(2) reasonably intuitive if possible,
(3) easy to remember and check your own work, and therefore  
(3) easy to remember and check your own work, and therefore
(3a) biased toward major being the "right" answer for meantone[7], and  
(3a) biased toward major being the "right" answer for meantone[7], and
(4) extensibility of the method beyond MOS.
(4) extensibility of the method beyond MOS.


I've created a method that uses step sizes, generally identified as s for small, M for medium, and L for large. (That would need to be extended for scales with more than three sizes of steps, of course, but the principle remains the same.)
I've created a method that uses step sizes, generally identified as s for small, M for medium, and L for large. (That would need to be extended for scales with more than three sizes of steps, of course, but the principle remains the same.)


Once a mode 1 has been identified, each mode is counted up by steps from the root of mode 1.  
Once a mode 1 has been identified, each mode is counted up by steps from the root of mode 1.
For example, using my method starting on C for meantone[7]:
For example, using my method starting on C for meantone[7]:
mode 1 is C major (LLsLLLs)
mode 1 is C major (LLsLLLs)
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Note the things I *don't* need to know to do this: I don't have to know what a generator is, what mappings are, what utonality or otonality is, or a host of other things. I won't get confused by seeing intervals that don't map to JI well (e.g., phi). This is, in fact, just basic string manipulation.
Note the things I *don't* need to know to do this: I don't have to know what a generator is, what mappings are, what utonality or otonality is, or a host of other things. I won't get confused by seeing intervals that don't map to JI well (e.g., phi). This is, in fact, just basic string manipulation.


I also have built-in checks: I know that if I start and end with the same step size that I'm doing something wrong, and using the technique for meantone[5 or 7] gives me pentatonic major ssLsL, or CDEGAC, and diatonic major LLsLLLs, or CDEFGABC.
I also have built-in checks: I know that if I start and end with the same step size that I'm doing something wrong, and using the technique for meantone[7] gives me the diatonic major scale LLsLLLs, or CDEFGABC.


==Extending to non-MOS==  
==Extending to non-MOS==  
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  My goals for numbering the modes are to make it as simple as possible for people to identify and use the modes they're talking about. As such, desired characteristics include &lt;br /&gt;
  My goals for numbering the modes are to make it as simple as possible for people to identify and use the modes they're talking about. As such, desired characteristics include&lt;br /&gt;
(1) as little knowledge needed as possible, to help the less-sophisticated user, &lt;br /&gt;
(1) as little knowledge needed as possible, to help the less-sophisticated user,&lt;br /&gt;
(2) reasonably intuitive if possible, &lt;br /&gt;
(2) reasonably intuitive if possible,&lt;br /&gt;
(3) easy to remember and check your own work, and therefore &lt;br /&gt;
(3) easy to remember and check your own work, and therefore&lt;br /&gt;
(3a) biased toward major being the &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; answer for meantone[7], and &lt;br /&gt;
(3a) biased toward major being the &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; answer for meantone[7], and&lt;br /&gt;
(4) extensibility of the method beyond MOS.&lt;br /&gt;
(4) extensibility of the method beyond MOS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've created a method that uses step sizes, generally identified as s for small, M for medium, and L for large. (That would need to be extended for scales with more than three sizes of steps, of course, but the principle remains the same.)&lt;br /&gt;
I've created a method that uses step sizes, generally identified as s for small, M for medium, and L for large. (That would need to be extended for scales with more than three sizes of steps, of course, but the principle remains the same.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once a mode 1 has been identified, each mode is counted up by steps from the root of mode 1. &lt;br /&gt;
Once a mode 1 has been identified, each mode is counted up by steps from the root of mode 1.&lt;br /&gt;
For example, using my method starting on C for meantone[7]:&lt;br /&gt;
For example, using my method starting on C for meantone[7]:&lt;br /&gt;
mode 1 is C major (LLsLLLs)&lt;br /&gt;
mode 1 is C major (LLsLLLs)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note the things I *don't* need to know to do this: I don't have to know what a generator is, what mappings are, what utonality or otonality is, or a host of other things. I won't get confused by seeing intervals that don't map to JI well (e.g., phi). This is, in fact, just basic string manipulation.&lt;br /&gt;
Note the things I *don't* need to know to do this: I don't have to know what a generator is, what mappings are, what utonality or otonality is, or a host of other things. I won't get confused by seeing intervals that don't map to JI well (e.g., phi). This is, in fact, just basic string manipulation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I also have built-in checks: I know that if I start and end with the same step size that I'm doing something wrong, and using the technique for meantone[5 or 7] gives me pentatonic major ssLsL, or CDEGAC, and diatonic major LLsLLLs, or CDEFGABC.&lt;br /&gt;
I also have built-in checks: I know that if I start and end with the same step size that I'm doing something wrong, and using the technique for meantone[7] gives me the diatonic major scale LLsLLLs, or CDEFGABC.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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