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Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval "maps" onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as &lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt;. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example:
Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval "maps" onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as &lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt;. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example:


&lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt; = (12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1) = 0
&lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt; = (12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1)&lt;span class="st"&gt; &amp;#61; &lt;/span&gt;0


In this case, the val &lt;12 19 28| is the [[patent val]] for 12-equal, and |-4 4 -1&gt; is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.
In this case, the val &lt;12 19 28| is the [[patent val]] for 12-equal, and |-4 4 -1&gt; is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.
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Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval &amp;quot;maps&amp;quot; onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as &amp;lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&amp;gt;. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example:&lt;br /&gt;
Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval &amp;quot;maps&amp;quot; onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as &amp;lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&amp;gt;. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&amp;gt; &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc1"&gt;&lt;a name="x(12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1)"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 --&gt; (12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1) &lt;/h1&gt;
&amp;lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&amp;gt; = (12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1)&lt;span class="st"&gt; &amp;#61; &lt;/span&gt;0&lt;br /&gt;
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In this case, the val &amp;lt;12 19 28| is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val"&gt;patent val&lt;/a&gt; for 12-equal, and |-4 4 -1&amp;gt; is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &amp;lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&amp;gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.&lt;br /&gt;
In this case, the val &amp;lt;12 19 28| is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val"&gt;patent val&lt;/a&gt; for 12-equal, and |-4 4 -1&amp;gt; is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &amp;lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&amp;gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;In general: &amp;lt;a b c|d e f&amp;gt; = ad + be + cf&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;In general: &amp;lt;a b c|d e f&amp;gt; = ad + be + cf&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit"&gt;p-limit&lt;/a&gt; rational number q can by definition be factored into primes of size less than or equal to p, giving&lt;br /&gt;
A &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit"&gt;p-limit&lt;/a&gt; rational number q can by definition be factored into primes of size less than or equal to p, giving&lt;br /&gt;
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and if the coordinates are the weighted interval space coordinates, then the TE norm is the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/L2-Norm.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;standard Euclidean, or L2, norm&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
and if the coordinates are the weighted interval space coordinates, then the TE norm is the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/L2-Norm.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;standard Euclidean, or L2, norm&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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  The 5-limit interval 16/15 factors as 2^4 3^(-1) 5^(-1), so it has a monzo representation of |4 -1 -1&amp;gt;. In weighted coordinates, that becomes |4 -log2(3) -log2(5)&amp;gt;, approximately |4 -1.585 -2.322&amp;gt;. The TE norm is therefore sqrt(1^2 + log2(3)^2 + log2(5)^2) ~ sqrt(23.903) = 4.889.&lt;br /&gt;
  The 5-limit interval 16/15 factors as 2^4 3^(-1) 5^(-1), so it has a monzo representation of |4 -1 -1&amp;gt;. In weighted coordinates, that becomes |4 -log2(3) -log2(5)&amp;gt;, approximately |4 -1.585 -2.322&amp;gt;. The TE norm is therefore sqrt(1^2 + log2(3)^2 + log2(5)^2) ~ sqrt(23.903) = 4.889.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;see also &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Fractional%20monzos"&gt;Fractional monzos&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals%20and%20Tuning%20Space"&gt;Vals and Tuning Space&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
&lt;em&gt;see also &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Fractional%20monzos"&gt;Fractional monzos&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals%20and%20Tuning%20Space"&gt;Vals and Tuning Space&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>