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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><span style="display: block; text-align: right;">[[toc]] | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><span style="display: block; text-align: right;">[[toc]] | ||
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The [[5-limit]] parent [[Comma|comma]] of the [[meantone]] family is the Didymus or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntonic_comma|syntonic comma]], 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzo]] for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1>, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]], <<1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval. | The [[5-limit]] parent [[Comma|comma]] of the [[meantone]] family is the Didymus or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntonic_comma|syntonic comma]], 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzo]] for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1>, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]], <<1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval. | ||
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=Septimal meantone= | =Septimal meantone= | ||
<span style="display: block; text-align: right;">[[xenharmonie/septimal-mitteltönig|Deutsch]] | |||
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The comma |-13 10 0 -1> for septimal meantone tells us that the interval class for 7 is 10 generator steps up. Hence, the [[7_4|7/4]] of septimal meantone is the augmented sixth, C-A#, and other septimal intervals are 7/6, C-D#, the augmented second, and [[7_5|7/5]], C-F#, the tritone. The [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]] for septimal meantone is <<1 4 10 4 13 12||, again telling us how to get to 5 and 7 in terms of generator steps. The temperament, aside from what is on the normal list, tempers out 126/125 and 225/224, and [[31edo]] is a good tuning for it. | The comma |-13 10 0 -1> for septimal meantone tells us that the interval class for 7 is 10 generator steps up. Hence, the [[7_4|7/4]] of septimal meantone is the augmented sixth, C-A#, and other septimal intervals are 7/6, C-D#, the augmented second, and [[7_5|7/5]], C-F#, the tritone. The [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]] for septimal meantone is <<1 4 10 4 13 12||, again telling us how to get to 5 and 7 in terms of generator steps. The temperament, aside from what is on the normal list, tempers out 126/125 and 225/224, and [[31edo]] is a good tuning for it. | ||
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=Mohajira= | =Mohajira= | ||
<span style="display: block; text-align: right;">[[xenharmonie/Mohajira|Deutsch]] | |||
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[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 6144/6125 | [[Comma]]s: 81/80, 6144/6125 | ||
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=Maqamic= | =Maqamic= | ||
<span style="display: block; text-align: right;">[[xenharmonie/maqamisch|Deutsch]] | |||
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Main article: [[Maqamic]] | Main article: [[Maqamic]] | ||
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 36/35, 121/120 | [[Comma]]s: 81/80, 36/35, 121/120 | ||
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The <a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit">5-limit</a> parent <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">comma</a> of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone">meantone</a> family is the Didymus or <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntonic_comma" rel="nofollow">syntonic comma</a>, 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The <a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space">monzo</a> for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1&gt;, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding <a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals">wedgie</a>, &lt;&lt;1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval.<br /> | The <a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit">5-limit</a> parent <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">comma</a> of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone">meantone</a> family is the Didymus or <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntonic_comma" rel="nofollow">syntonic comma</a>, 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The <a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space">monzo</a> for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1&gt;, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding <a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals">wedgie</a>, &lt;&lt;1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval.<br /> | ||
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The comma |-13 10 0 -1&gt; for septimal meantone tells us that the interval class for 7 is 10 generator steps up. Hence, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4">7/4</a> of septimal meantone is the augmented sixth, C-A#, and other septimal intervals are 7/6, C-D#, the augmented second, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/7_5">7/5</a>, C-F#, the tritone. The <a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals">wedgie</a> for septimal meantone is &lt;&lt;1 4 10 4 13 12||, again telling us how to get to 5 and 7 in terms of generator steps. The temperament, aside from what is on the normal list, tempers out 126/125 and 225/224, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a> is a good tuning for it.<br /> | <span style="display: block; text-align: right;"><a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonie.wikispaces.com/septimal-mittelt%C3%B6nig">Deutsch</a><br /> | ||
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The comma |-13 10 0 -1&gt; for septimal meantone tells us that the interval class for 7 is 10 generator steps up. Hence, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4">7/4</a> of septimal meantone is the augmented sixth, C-A#, and other septimal intervals are 7/6, C-D#, the augmented second, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/7_5">7/5</a>, C-F#, the tritone. The <a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals">wedgie</a> for septimal meantone is &lt;&lt;1 4 10 4 13 12||, again telling us how to get to 5 and 7 in terms of generator steps. The temperament, aside from what is on the normal list, tempers out 126/125 and 225/224, and <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a> is a good tuning for it.<br /> | |||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Comma</a>s: 81/80, 126/125<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Comma</a>s: 81/80, 126/125<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Comma</a>s: 81/80, 6144/6125<br /> | <span style="display: block; text-align: right;"><a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonie.wikispaces.com/Mohajira">Deutsch</a><br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Comma</a>s: 81/80, 6144/6125<br /> | |||
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Mohajira, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 8 -11 8 -23 -48||, really makes more sense as an 11-limit temperament. It has a generator of a neutral third, two of which make up a fifth, and which can be taken to represent 128/105. Mohajira tempers out 6144/6125, the porwell comma. <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a> makes for an excellent (7-limit) mohajira tuning, with generator 9/31. It has a 7-note MOS with three larger steps and four smaller ones, going sLsLsLs.<br /> | Mohajira, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 8 -11 8 -23 -48||, really makes more sense as an 11-limit temperament. It has a generator of a neutral third, two of which make up a fifth, and which can be taken to represent 128/105. Mohajira tempers out 6144/6125, the porwell comma. <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a> makes for an excellent (7-limit) mohajira tuning, with generator 9/31. It has a 7-note MOS with three larger steps and four smaller ones, going sLsLsLs.<br /> | ||
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Main article: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Maqamic">Maqamic</a><br /> | <span style="display: block; text-align: right;"><a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonie.wikispaces.com/maqamisch">Deutsch</a><br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Comma</a>s: 81/80, 36/35, 121/120<br /> | <a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma">Comma</a>s: 81/80, 36/35, 121/120<br /> | ||
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