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=Marveltwin and Marvel=
=Marveltwin and Marvel=
The //marveltwin comma//, 325/324, bears a curiously close analogy to the marvel comma, 225/224. 325/324 can be added to the 11-limit
The //marveltwin comma//, 325/324, bears a curiously close analogy to the marvel comma, 225/224. 325/324 can be added to the [[11-limit]] version of marvel, which tempers out 225/224 and 385/384, to get [[13-limit]] marvel. But it's also interesting to leave 11 out of it. From 225/224 we get that a 5-limit approximation for 7 is 225/224 * 7 = 225/32. Similarly from 325/324 we get a 5-limit approximation of 13 from 324/325 * 13 = 324/25. If we define the major/minor transformation of the 5-limit as the result of fixing 2 and 3 and replacing 5 by 24/5, then major/minor applied to 225/32 is 162/25, which is (324/25)/2. Similarly, major/minor applied to 324/25 is 225/16 = 2 * (225/32). 225/224 tells us that two 16/15 in a row are an approximate 8/7, and 325/324 tells us two 10/9 in a row are an approximate 16/13. Needless to say, major/minor applied to 16/15 is 10/9, and applied to 10/9 is 16/15.
version of marvel, tempering out 225/224 and 385/384 to get 13-limit marvel. But it's also interesting to leave 11 out of it. From 225/224 we get that a 5-limit approximation for 7 is 225/224 * 7 = 225/32. Similarly from 325/324 we get a 5-limit approximation of 13 from 324/325 * 13 = 324/25. If we define the major/minor transformation of the 5-limit as the result of fixing 2 and 3 and replacing 5 by 24/5, then major/minor applied to 225/32 is 162/25, which is (324/25)/2. Similarly, major/minor applied to 324/25 is 225/16 = 2 * (225/32). 225/224 tells us that two 16/15 in a row are an approximate 8/7, and 325/324 tells us two 10/9 in a row are an approximate 16/13. Needless to say, major/minor applied to 16/15 is 10/9, and applied to 10/9 is 16/15.


=Rank five=
=Rank five=
Comma: 325/324
Comma: 325/324
13 and 15 limit minimax tuning
|| [1 0 0 0 0 0&gt; ||
|| [0 1 0 0 0 0&gt; ||
|| [2/3 4/3 1/3 0 0 -1/3&gt; ||
|| [2/3 4/3 -2/3 1 0 -1/3&gt; ||
|| [2/3 4/3 -2/3 0 1 -1/3&gt; ||
|| [2/3 4/3 -2/3 0 0 2/3&gt; ||
Eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5


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The &lt;em&gt;marveltwin comma&lt;/em&gt;, 325/324, bears a curiously close analogy to the marvel comma, 225/224. 325/324 can be added to the 11-limit&lt;br /&gt;
The &lt;em&gt;marveltwin comma&lt;/em&gt;, 325/324, bears a curiously close analogy to the marvel comma, 225/224. 325/324 can be added to the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt; version of marvel, which tempers out 225/224 and 385/384, to get &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt; marvel. But it's also interesting to leave 11 out of it. From 225/224 we get that a 5-limit approximation for 7 is 225/224 * 7 = 225/32. Similarly from 325/324 we get a 5-limit approximation of 13 from 324/325 * 13 = 324/25. If we define the major/minor transformation of the 5-limit as the result of fixing 2 and 3 and replacing 5 by 24/5, then major/minor applied to 225/32 is 162/25, which is (324/25)/2. Similarly, major/minor applied to 324/25 is 225/16 = 2 * (225/32). 225/224 tells us that two 16/15 in a row are an approximate 8/7, and 325/324 tells us two 10/9 in a row are an approximate 16/13. Needless to say, major/minor applied to 16/15 is 10/9, and applied to 10/9 is 16/15.&lt;br /&gt;
version of marvel, tempering out 225/224 and 385/384 to get 13-limit marvel. But it's also interesting to leave 11 out of it. From 225/224 we get that a 5-limit approximation for 7 is 225/224 * 7 = 225/32. Similarly from 325/324 we get a 5-limit approximation of 13 from 324/325 * 13 = 324/25. If we define the major/minor transformation of the 5-limit as the result of fixing 2 and 3 and replacing 5 by 24/5, then major/minor applied to 225/32 is 162/25, which is (324/25)/2. Similarly, major/minor applied to 324/25 is 225/16 = 2 * (225/32). 225/224 tells us that two 16/15 in a row are an approximate 8/7, and 325/324 tells us two 10/9 in a row are an approximate 16/13. Needless to say, major/minor applied to 16/15 is 10/9, and applied to 10/9 is 16/15.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comma: 325/324&lt;br /&gt;
Comma: 325/324&lt;br /&gt;
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13 and 15 limit minimax tuning&lt;br /&gt;
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Eigenmonzo subgroup: 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: &lt;br /&gt;
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