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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><span style="display: block; text-align: right;">Other languages: [[xenharmonie/Magische Temperaturen#x-7-Limit-magisch|Deutsch]]</span> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><span style="display: block; text-align: right;">Other languages: [[xenharmonie/Magische Temperaturen#x-7-Limit-magisch|Deutsch]] | ||
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**Magic** is a linear temperament in which the ~380 cent generator represents 5/4, and five of those make a 3/1. This implies that the [[magic comma]] 3125/3072 is tempered out, making it a member of the [[Magic family]]. This article also assumes the default mapping for the prime 7, which tempers out 225/224 and makes two generators equivalent to 14/9. 7/4 can be reached by 12 generators in this mapping. (There is an alternative mapping for 7 known as [[Magic family#Muggles|muggles]], but there's basically no reason to use it unless you're using [[19edo]], in which case it's identical to magic anyway.) | **Magic** is a linear temperament in which the ~380 cent generator represents 5/4, and five of those make a 3/1. This implies that the [[magic comma]] 3125/3072 is tempered out, making it a member of the [[Magic family]]. This article also assumes the default mapping for the prime 7, which tempers out 225/224 and makes two generators equivalent to 14/9. 7/4 can be reached by 12 generators in this mapping. (There is an alternative mapping for 7 known as [[Magic family#Muggles|muggles]], but there's basically no reason to use it unless you're using [[19edo]], in which case it's identical to magic anyway.) | ||
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Magic has certain properties that commend it as a step up in complexity from traditional harmony: | Magic has certain properties that commend it as a step up in complexity from traditional harmony: | ||
* Every non-trivial 7-limit interval is better tuned than in [[12edo]]. | |||
* It is the simplest mapping with the above property. | |||
* It is only slightly more complex than meantone (both work well with a 19 note gamut). | |||
* 5-limit intervals are simpler than other 7-limit intervals. | |||
It fails to be a panacea because: | It fails to be a panacea because: | ||
* It has no proper MOS scales of between 3 and 16 notes. | |||
* It is more complex than meantone | |||
* The 3/2 approximation is 5 times as complex as the 5/4 approximation (the generator) so modulation by fifths is more constrained than you may be used to. | |||
Because the generator is so close to 1\3 of an octave, and the interval left over (which represents both 128/125 and 25/24) is accordingly so small, all small magic MOSes consist of three large intervals alternating with three groups of this small interval. Specifically, there are the following MOSes, where s always represents the characteristic small interval of 128/125~25/24. | Because the generator is so close to 1\3 of an octave, and the interval left over (which represents both 128/125 and 25/24) is accordingly so small, all small magic MOSes consist of three large intervals alternating with three groups of this small interval. Specifically, there are the following MOSes, where s always represents the characteristic small interval of 128/125~25/24. | ||
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//[[http://x31eq.com/music/dingsheng.mp3|Golden Age]] disco involving magic comma pumps.// | //[[http://x31eq.com/music/dingsheng.mp3|Golden Age]] disco involving magic comma pumps.// | ||
//[[http://x31eq.com/music/dingshi.mp3|Extravagant Food]] a single magic comma pump in under 60 seconds in 60-equal.// | //[[http://x31eq.com/music/dingshi.mp3|Extravagant Food]] a single magic comma pump in under 60 seconds in 60-equal.// | ||
//[[http://x31eq.com/music/jitter.ogg|Gene's Jitterbug]] 9-limit harmony, may not require magic.// | //[[http://x31eq.com/music/jitter.ogg|Gene's Jitterbug]] 9-limit harmony, may not require magic.//</pre></div> | ||
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<strong>Magic</strong> is a linear temperament in which the ~380 cent generator represents 5/4, and five of those make a 3/1. This implies that the <a class="wiki_link" href="/magic%20comma">magic comma</a> 3125/3072 is tempered out, making it a member of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family">Magic family</a>. This article also assumes the default mapping for the prime 7, which tempers out 225/224 and makes two generators equivalent to 14/9. 7/4 can be reached by 12 generators in this mapping. (There is an alternative mapping for 7 known as <a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family#Muggles">muggles</a>, but there's basically no reason to use it unless you're using <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19edo</a>, in which case it's identical to magic anyway.)<br /> | <strong>Magic</strong> is a linear temperament in which the ~380 cent generator represents 5/4, and five of those make a 3/1. This implies that the <a class="wiki_link" href="/magic%20comma">magic comma</a> 3125/3072 is tempered out, making it a member of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family">Magic family</a>. This article also assumes the default mapping for the prime 7, which tempers out 225/224 and makes two generators equivalent to 14/9. 7/4 can be reached by 12 generators in this mapping. (There is an alternative mapping for 7 known as <a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family#Muggles">muggles</a>, but there's basically no reason to use it unless you're using <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19edo</a>, in which case it's identical to magic anyway.)<br /> | ||
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Magic has certain properties that commend it as a step up in complexity from traditional harmony:<br /> | Magic has certain properties that commend it as a step up in complexity from traditional harmony:<br /> | ||
<ul><li>Every non-trivial 7-limit interval is better tuned than in <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a>.</li><li>It is the simplest mapping with the above property.</li><li>It is only slightly more complex than meantone (both work well with a 19 note gamut).</li><li>5-limit intervals are simpler than other 7-limit intervals.</li></ul><br /> | |||
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It fails to be a panacea because:<br /> | It fails to be a panacea because:<br /> | ||
<ul><li>It has no proper MOS scales of between 3 and 16 notes.</li><li>It is more complex than meantone</li><li>The 3/2 approximation is 5 times as complex as the 5/4 approximation (the generator) so modulation by fifths is more constrained than you may be used to.</li></ul><br /> | |||
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Because the generator is so close to 1\3 of an octave, and the interval left over (which represents both 128/125 and 25/24) is accordingly so small, all small magic MOSes consist of three large intervals alternating with three groups of this small interval. Specifically, there are the following MOSes, where s always represents the characteristic small interval of 128/125~25/24.<br /> | Because the generator is so close to 1\3 of an octave, and the interval left over (which represents both 128/125 and 25/24) is accordingly so small, all small magic MOSes consist of three large intervals alternating with three groups of this small interval. Specifically, there are the following MOSes, where s always represents the characteristic small interval of 128/125~25/24.<br /> | ||
<ul><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%204s">3L 4s</a>: LsLsLss where L = 6/5</li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%207s">3L 7s</a>: LssLssLsss where L = 7/6</li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%2010s">3L 10s</a>: LsssLsssLssss where L = 9/8</li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%2013s">3L 13s</a>: LssssLssssLsssss where L is a neutral second, which can be taken to represent 12/11 (in magic temperament) or 11/10 (in the related <a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family#Magic-Telepathy">telepathy</a> temperament). In 22edo they are identical.</li></ul><br /> | <ul><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%204s">3L 4s</a>: LsLsLss where L = 6/5</li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%207s">3L 7s</a>: LssLssLsss where L = 7/6</li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%2010s">3L 10s</a>: LsssLsssLssss where L = 9/8</li><li><a class="wiki_link" href="/3L%2013s">3L 13s</a>: LssssLssssLsssss where L is a neutral second, which can be taken to represent 12/11 (in magic temperament) or 11/10 (in the related <a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family#Magic-Telepathy">telepathy</a> temperament). In 22edo they are identical.</li></ul><br /> | ||