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==Seven limit children==
==Seven limit children==
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator.
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 5120/5103, hemifamity, gives countercata, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun, catakleismic and countercata all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic and countercata define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator.


===Keemun===
===Keemun===
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Map: [&lt;1 0 1 2|, &lt;0 6 5 3|]
Map: [&lt;1 0 1 2|, &lt;0 6 5 3|]
EDOs: 19, 91
===Catakleismic===
[[Comma|Commas]]: 225/224, 4375/4374
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 316.732
Map: [&lt;1 0 1 -3|, &lt;0 6 5 22|]
EDOs: 53, 72, 197
===Countercata===
[[Comma|Commas]]: 15625/15552, 5120/5103
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 317.121
Map: [&lt;1 0 1 11|, &lt;0 6 5 -31|]
EDOs: 53, 140
===Hemikleismic===
Commas: 4000/3969, 6144/6125
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 158.649
Map: [&lt;1 0 1 4|, &lt;0 12 10 -9|]
EDOs: 53, 121


===Clyde===
===Clyde===
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Map: [&lt;1 6 6 12|, &lt;0 -12 -10 -25|]
Map: [&lt;1 6 6 12|, &lt;0 -12 -10 -25|]
[[Generator|Generators]]: 2, 9/7
[[Generator|Generators]]: 2, 9/7
[[Edo|Edos]]: [[19edo|19]], [[49edo|49]], [[68edo|68]], [[87edo|87]], [[155edo|155]]</pre></div>
[[Edo|Edos]]: [[19edo|19]], [[49edo|49]], [[68edo|68]], [[87edo|87]], [[155edo|155]]
 
===Tritikleismic===
Commas: 15625/15552, 1029/1024
 
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 316.872
 
Map: [&lt;3 0 3 10|, &lt;0 6 5 -2|]
 
EDOs: 72, 231
 
===Quadritikleismic===
Commas: 15625/15552, 2401/2400
 
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 316.9999
 
Map: [&lt;4 0 4 7|, &lt;0 6 5 4|]
 
EDOs: 68, 72, 140, 212, 1200(!)</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Kleismic family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; is possible. Other tunings include &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo"&gt;140edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The second comma of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt; defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun and catakleismic both have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic defines the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator.&lt;br /&gt;
The second comma of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt; defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. 875/864, the keemic comma, gives keemun, 4375/4374, the ragisma, gives catakleismic, 5120/5103, hemifamity, gives countercata, 6144/6125, the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic, 245/243, sensamagic, gives clyde, 1029/1024, the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic, and 2401/2400, the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Keemun, catakleismic and countercata all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic and countercata define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3 octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4 octave period with the minor third generator.&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 1 2|, &amp;lt;0 6 5 3|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 1 2|, &amp;lt;0 6 5 3|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 19, 91&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Commas&lt;/a&gt;: 225/224, 4375/4374&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 316.732&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 1 -3|, &amp;lt;0 6 5 22|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 53, 72, 197&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Commas&lt;/a&gt;: 15625/15552, 5120/5103&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 317.121&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 1 11|, &amp;lt;0 6 5 -31|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 53, 140&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 4000/3969, 6144/6125&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 158.649&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 1 4|, &amp;lt;0 12 10 -9|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 53, 121&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Commas&lt;/a&gt;: 245/243, 3136/3125&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Commas&lt;/a&gt;: 245/243, 3136/3125&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 6 6 12|, &amp;lt;0 -12 -10 -25|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 6 6 12|, &amp;lt;0 -12 -10 -25|]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Generator"&gt;Generators&lt;/a&gt;: 2, 9/7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Generator"&gt;Generators&lt;/a&gt;: 2, 9/7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Edo"&gt;Edos&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/49edo"&gt;49&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/155edo"&gt;155&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Edo"&gt;Edos&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/49edo"&gt;49&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/155edo"&gt;155&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 15625/15552, 1029/1024&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 316.872&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;3 0 3 10|, &amp;lt;0 6 5 -2|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 72, 231&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 15625/15552, 2401/2400&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 316.9999&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;4 0 4 7|, &amp;lt;0 6 5 4|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 68, 72, 140, 212, 1200(!)&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>