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=== 3 stars (pass) ===
=== 3 stars (pass) ===
==== Bipelog ====
The name [[bipelog]] is okay. It still doesn't maybe make as it clear as it could that it's not some kind of traditional Indonesian scale, but it's at least different enough from "pelog" to not be confused as the exact same thing. It's fine enough.


==== Gamelismic ====
==== Gamelismic ====
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However, “gamelismic” is at least different enough from the word “gamelan” that it’s unlikely people will confuse the two, and as a result “gamelismic” is unlikely to muddy the perception or reputation of the gamelan tradition in any way.
However, “gamelismic” is at least different enough from the word “gamelan” that it’s unlikely people will confuse the two, and as a result “gamelismic” is unlikely to muddy the perception or reputation of the gamelan tradition in any way.


So it’s fine I suppose.
So it should be fine.


==== Neutrominant ====
==== Neutrominant ====
"Maqamic" has been renamed to "[[neutrominant]]". While that's a big improvement, it isn’t perfect. Good enough, but not perfect.
"Maqamic" has been renamed to "[[neutrominant]]". While that's a big improvement, it isn’t perfect. It’s good enough though, especially given how hard the community struggled internally over the name, it makes sense to keep it. Anything good enough is, well, good enough.


Neutrominant was directly inspired by Arabic scales. Its explicit goal is to approximate them within an RTT framework. So the fact that its name includes no reference to Arabic music at all feels wrong. It feels a little bit like stealing from Arabic music theory and claiming it as its own without giving credit.
Neutrominant was directly inspired by Arabic scales. Its explicit goal is to approximate them within an RTT framework. So the fact that its name includes no reference to Arabic music at all feels wrong. It feels a little bit like stealing from Arabic music theory and claiming it as its own without giving credit.


Neutrominant does still get a solid passing grade, though, because it does at least still reference neutral thirds in its name, which are a concept associated with Arabic music.
Neutrominant is still okay, though, because it does at least still reference neutral thirds in its name, which are a concept associated with Arabic music.  
 
And also, the wiki page for neutrominant temperament does devote almost its entire length to explaining the similarities, differences and relationship with maqams (it’s a really good page), so it’s not as if the community is trying to hide the temperament’s origins, they are very enthusiastic about sharing them.


So neutrominant is okay, it’s a good enough name, could be better, but pretty neat.
And also, the wiki page for neutrominant temperament does devote almost its entire length to explaining the similarities, differences and relationship with maqams (it’s a really good page), so it’s not as if the community is trying to hide the temperament’s origins, they are very enthusiastic about sharing them. Which makes me happy to see.


==== Rishi ====
==== Rishi ====
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[[Slendrismic]] temperament is not actually named after slendro, it is named after the fact it has a slender [[generator]]. For that reason it doesn't really even need to appear on this list, but we might as well give it a look.
[[Slendrismic]] temperament is not actually named after slendro, it is named after the fact it has a slender [[generator]]. For that reason it doesn't really even need to appear on this list, but we might as well give it a look.


The name is similar enough to slendro that there is a tad possibility for confusion, so I can’t give too many stars, but really it probably is different enough that it’s fine. I don’t think anyone is likely to mix up “slendro” and “slendrismic”.  
The name is similar enough to slendro that there is a tad possibility for confusion, but it is probably different enough that it’s fine. I don’t think anyone is likely to mix up “slendro” and “slendrismic”.  


So, it gets a pass.
==== Superpelog ====
The name [[superpelog]] could give the impression that it's "better than  pelog", which would be bad, but I don't think that's how most people will interpret it.  


==== Superpelog ====
I think most people will think of it as "pelog but more extreme", in the same way "[[superpyth]]" is "[[pythagorean]] but more extreme" or "[[supermajor]]" is "major but more extreme". In which the case, then the name is very good, because it gives credit to pelog without claiming to be the same as it.
The name [[superpelog]] is fairly cool. It could give the impression that it's "better than  pelog", which would be bad, but I don't think that's how most people will interpret it. I think most people will think of it as "pelog but more extreme", in the same way "[[superpyth]]" is "[[pythagorean]] but more extreme" or "[[supermajor]]" is "major but more extreme". In which the case, then the name is very good, because it gives credit to pelog without claiming to be the same as it.


=== 4 stars (distinction) ===
=== 4 stars (distinction) ===
==== Bipelog ====
The name [[bipelog]] is pretty good. It gives a straightforward description of what it is (a pelog-like fifth generator, two periods per octave instead of one). It gives credit to pelog while still making it clear it’s its own thing.


==== Biyatismic ====
==== Biyatismic ====
'''Possible alternative names: biyatesque, biyamatic, biyatonical, biyatilike, biyatypic, biyatypical'''
[[Biyatismic]] temperament is inspired by maqam biyati, so it is good that it references that in the name.
[[Biyatismic]] temperament is inspired by maqam biyati, so it is good that it references that in the name.


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==== Injera ====
==== Injera ====
[[Injera]] temperament is named after an Ethopian flatbread, because 26edo supports it and the Ethiopian alphabet has 26 letters. A slightly goofy reason for a name, and the temperament doesn't have much to do with Ethopia, but it's not stealing anything, and it might encourage people to check out Ethopian breadmaking, so that's quite neat.
[[Injera]] temperament is named after an [[Ethopian]] flatbread, because [[26edo]] supports it and the Ethiopian alphabet has 26 letters. A slightly goofy reason for a name, and the temperament doesn't have much to do with Ethopia, but it's not stealing anything, and it might encourage people to check out Ethopian breadmaking, so that's quite neat.


==== Kartvelian^ ====
==== Kartvelian^ ====
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==== Migration ====
==== Migration ====
Closely based on [[mohajira]] temperament, [[migration]] maybe doesn't give quite ''enough'' credit to the original Arabic inspiration of the tuning.
Closely based on [[mohajira]] temperament, the name [[migration]] is the English translation of mohajira's name, so it does still give credit indirectly by doing that, so that's why it's still rated so highly.  
 
Its name is the English translation of mohajira's name, so it does still give credit indirectly by doing that, so that's why it's still rated so highly.  


That, combined with the fact that it is further removed from the practice of Arabic music than mohajira, so it's okay for it to give credit less directly.
That, combined with the fact that it is further removed from the practice of Arabic music than mohajira, so it's okay for it to give credit less directly.


A little bit more direct credit would be nice. But it's still pretty cool.
A little bit more direct credit might still be nice. But it's still pretty cool.


==== Rastmic ====
==== Rastmic ====
[[Rastmic]] temperament is inspired by maqam rast, so it is good that it references that in the name.
[[Rastmic]] temperament is inspired by maqam rast, so it is good that it references that in the name.


It is perhaps named a little too close to "rast", but it is probably different enough to avoid confusion. "Rastmic scale" is unlikely to be confused with "rast scale", for example.
It is perhaps still named a little too close to "rast", but it is probably different enough to avoid confusion. "Rastmic scale" is unlikely to be confused with "rast scale", for example.
 
It's a reasonable name.


=== 5 stars (high distinction) ===
=== 5 stars (high distinction) ===
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This is a great way to go about it, I think.
This is a great way to go about it, I think.


What would have been ''bad'' is if the traditional 7 tone scale itself had been called the "mavila scale" and the temperament had stolen the name. But since Mavila was only the name of a village, not the traditional name of the scale, it's completely good.
What would have been bad is to call the temperament "Chopi", because then you're claiming affiliation with that entire culture, which would be appropriation.
 
What would have also been bad is to call the temperament "Chopi", because then you're claiming affiliation with that entire culture, which would be appropriation.


But using the name of a ''village'' instead is perfect. It gives credit to the original place where you were inspired by their tuning, without claiming to ''be'' their tuning.
But using the name of a ''village'' instead is perfect. It gives credit to the original place where you were inspired by their tuning, without claiming to ''be'' their tuning.


This is actually kind of a timeless way to name scales and tunings throughout history: [[5L2s|phrygian, dorian, etc.]] are all named after geographical places, so are many of the maqams. Naming a scale after a village near where you found it is a fun strategy.  
This is actually kind of a timeless way to name scales and tunings throughout history: [[5L2s|phrygian, dorian, etc.]] are all named after geographical places, so are many of the maqams. Naming a scale after a village or river or such, at or near where you found it, is a fun strategy.  


Important to mention, too, Mavila is actually very very close to the Chopi tuning and is directly inspired by it, so it is quite appropriate for it to have a name related to that. It's not just had the name tacked onto it, it really merits the name.
Important to mention, too, Mavila is actually very very close to a Chopi tuning and is directly inspired by it, so it is quite appropriate for it to have a name related to that. It's not just had the name tacked onto it, it really merits the name.


===== Avila, cohemimabila, hemimabila, mabila, maviloid, mohavila, movila, trimabila =====
===== Avila, cohemimabila, hemimabila, mabila, maviloid, mohavila, movila, trimabila =====
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==== Pelotonic ====
==== Pelotonic ====
Pelotonic is the [[TAMNAMS]] name for the MOS scale [[2L 5s]]. This name is awesome in every way.
Pelotonic is the [[TAMNAMS]] name for the MOS scale [[2L 5s]]. This name is awesome!


2L 5s really does resemble the 7-tone version of the pelog scale, so it's quite appropriate to note that similarity in the name.
2L 5s really does resemble the [[:Category:7-tone scales|7-tone]] version of the pelog scale, so it's quite appropriate to note that similarity in the name.


"Pelotonic" is also different enough from pelog that there's no possible way of confusing or conflating the two, they're clearly different but related. That's the goal for these type of names.
"Pelotonic" is also different enough from pelog that there's no possible way of confusing or conflating the two, they're clearly different but related. That's the goal for these type of names.


And even that added bit "tonic" is really smart, because it tells the theorist exactly in what way is this "pelotonic" similar to pelog: It's pelo''tonic'', it has the same number of large vs small leaps as pelog.
And even that added bit "tonic" is really smart, because it tells the theorist exactly in what way is this "pelotonic" similar to pelog: It's pelo''tonic'', it has the same number of large vs small melodic jumps as pelog.


This name is perfect!
This name is perfect!