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<math>\norm{\monzo{b_2 \ b_3 \ \ldots \ b_k }}_p = \left(\abs{b_2 \log_2 2}^p + \abs{b_3 \log_2 3}^p + \ldots + \abs{b_k \log_2 k}^p\right)^{\frac{1}{p}}</math> | <math>\norm{\monzo{b_2 \ b_3 \ \ldots \ b_k }}_p = \left(\abs{b_2 \log_2 2}^p + \abs{b_3 \log_2 3}^p + \ldots + \abs{b_k \log_2 k}^p\right)^{\frac{1}{p}}</math> | ||
If ''q'' is any positive rational number, | If ''q'' is any positive rational number, {{!!}}''q''{{!!}}<sub>''p''</sub> is the T<sub>''p''</sub> norm defined by its monzo. | ||
For some just intonation group G, which is to say some finitely generated group of positive rational numbers which can be either a full prime-limit group or some subgroup of such a group, a regular temperament [[tuning map|tuning]] T for an abstract temperament S is defined by a linear map from monzos belonging to G to a value in cents, such that {{nowrap|T(''c'') {{=}} 0}} for any comma ''c'' of the temperament. We define the error of the tuning on ''q'', Err (''q''), as {{nowrap|{{!}}T(''q'') − cents (''q''){{!}}}}, and if {{nowrap|''q'' ≠ 1}}, the ''T<sub>p</sub> proportional error'' is {{nowrap|PE<sub>''p''</sub>(''q'') {{=}} Err(''q'')/ | For some just intonation group G, which is to say some finitely generated group of positive rational numbers which can be either a full prime-limit group or some subgroup of such a group, a regular temperament [[tuning map|tuning]] T for an abstract temperament S is defined by a linear map from monzos belonging to G to a value in cents, such that {{nowrap|T(''c'') {{=}} 0}} for any comma ''c'' of the temperament. We define the error of the tuning on ''q'', Err (''q''), as {{nowrap|{{!}}T(''q'') − cents (''q''){{!}}}}, and if {{nowrap|''q'' ≠ 1}}, the ''T<sub>p</sub> proportional error'' is {{nowrap|PE<sub>''p''</sub>(''q'') {{=}} Err(''q'')/{{!!}}''q''{{!!}}<sub>''p''</sub>}}. For any tuning T of the temperament, the set of PE<sub>''p''</sub>(''q'') for all {{nowrap|''q'' ≠ 1}} in G is bounded, and hence has a least upper bound, the supremum sup (PE<sub>''p''</sub>(T)). The set of values sup (PE<sub>''p''</sub>(T)) is bounded below, and by continuity achieves its minimum value, which is the T<sub>''p''</sub> error E<sub>''p''</sub>(S) of the abstract temperament S; if we measure in cents as we've defined above, E<sub>''p''</sub>(S) has units of cents. Any tuning achieving this minimum, so that {{nowrap|sup(PE<sub>''p''</sub>(T)) {{=}} E<sub>''p''</sub>(S)}}, is an T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning. Usually this tuning is unique, but in the case {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} 1}}, called the [[TOP tuning]], it may not be. In this case we can choose a TOP tuning canonically by setting it to the limit as ''p'' tends to 1 of the T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning, thereby defining a unique tuning T<sub>''p''</sub>(S) for any abstract temperament S on any group G. Given T<sub>''p''</sub>(S) in a group G containing 2, we may define a corresponding pure-octaves tuning (POL<sub>''p''</sub> tuning) by dividing by the tuning of 2: {{nowrap|T<sub>''p''</sub>{{'}}(S) {{=}} 1200 T<sub>''p''</sub>(S)/(T<sub>''p''</sub>(S))<sub>1</sub>}}, where (T<sub>''p''</sub>(S))<sub>1</sub> is the first entry of T<sub>''p''</sub>(S). When {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} 2}}, POL<sub>2</sub> tuning generalizes POTE tuning. | ||
== Dual norm == | == Dual norm == | ||
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== Applying the Hahn-Banach theorem == | == Applying the Hahn-Banach theorem == | ||
Suppose {{nowrap|T {{=}} T<sub>''p''</sub>(S)}} is an T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning for the temperament S, and J is the JI tuning. These are both elements of G-tuning space, which are linear functionals on G-interval space, and hence the error map {{nowrap|Ɛ {{=}} T − J}} is also. The norm | Suppose {{nowrap|T {{=}} T<sub>''p''</sub>(S)}} is an T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning for the temperament S, and J is the JI tuning. These are both elements of G-tuning space, which are linear functionals on G-interval space, and hence the error map {{nowrap|Ɛ {{=}} T − J}} is also. The norm {{!!}}Ɛ{{!!}} of Ɛ is minimal among all error maps for tunings of S since T is the T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning. By the [[Wikipedia: Hahn–Banach theorem|Hahn–Banach theorem]], Ɛ can be extended to an element Ƹ in the space of full ''p''-limit tuning maps with the same norm; that is, so that {{nowrap|{{!!}}Ɛ{{!!}} {{=}} {{!!}}Ƹ{{!!}}}}. Additionally, due to a [http://www.math.unl.edu/%7Es-bbockel1/928/node25.html corollary of Hahn–Banach], the set of such error maps valid for S can be extended to a larger set which is valid for an extended temperament S*; this temperament S* will be of rank greater than or equal to S, and will share the same kernel. {{!!}}Ƹ{{!!}}, the norm of the full ''p''-limit error map, must also be minimal among all valid error maps for S*, or the restriction of Ƹ to G would improve on Ɛ. Hence, as {{!!}}Ƹ{{!!}} is minimal, {{nowrap|J* + Ƹ}}, where J* is the full ''p''-limit [[JIP]], must equal the T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning for S*. Thus to find the T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning of S for the group G, we may first find the T<sub>''p''</sub> tuning T* for S*, and then apply it to the normal interval list giving the standard form of generators for G. | ||
Note that while the Hahn-Banach theorem is usually proven using Zorn's lemma and does not guarantee any kind of uniqueness, in most cases there is only one L<sub>''p''</sub> tuning and the extension of Ɛ to Ƹ is in that case unique. It is also easy to see that this can only be non-unique if {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} 1}} or {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} ∞}}, so that we may get a unique L<sub>''p''</sub> tuning (called the "TIPTOP" tuning for {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} ∞}}) by simply taking the limit as ''p'' approaches our value. | Note that while the Hahn-Banach theorem is usually proven using Zorn's lemma and does not guarantee any kind of uniqueness, in most cases there is only one L<sub>''p''</sub> tuning and the extension of Ɛ to Ƹ is in that case unique. It is also easy to see that this can only be non-unique if {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} 1}} or {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} ∞}}, so that we may get a unique L<sub>''p''</sub> tuning (called the "TIPTOP" tuning for {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} ∞}}) by simply taking the limit as ''p'' approaches our value. | ||
== T<sub>2</sub> tuning == | == T<sub>2</sub> tuning == | ||
In the special case where {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} 2}}, the T<sub>''p''</sub> norm for the full prime limit becomes the T<sub>2</sub> norm, which when divided by the square root of the number ''n'' of primes in the prime limit, is the [[Tenney-Euclidean metrics|Tenney-Euclidean norm]], giving TE complexity. Associated to this norm is T<sub>2</sub> tuning extended to arbitrary JI groups, and [[Tenney-Euclidean temperament measures#TE error|RMS error]], which for a tuning map T is {{nowrap| | In the special case where {{nowrap|''p'' {{=}} 2}}, the T<sub>''p''</sub> norm for the full prime limit becomes the T<sub>2</sub> norm, which when divided by the square root of the number ''n'' of primes in the prime limit, is the [[Tenney-Euclidean metrics|Tenney-Euclidean norm]], giving TE complexity. Associated to this norm is T<sub>2</sub> tuning extended to arbitrary JI groups, and [[Tenney-Euclidean temperament measures#TE error|RMS error]], which for a tuning map T is {{nowrap|{{!!}}(T − J)/''n''{{!!}}<sub>2</sub> {{=}} {{!!}}T − J{{!!}}<sub>RMS</sub>}}. | ||
For an example, consider [[Chromatic pairs#Indium|indium temperament]], with group 2.5/3.7/3.11/3 and [[comma basis]] 3025/3024 and 3125/3087. The corresponding full 11-limit temperament is of rank three, and using the [[Tenney-Euclidean tuning|usual methods]], in particular the pseudoinverse, we find that the T<sub>2</sub> (TE) tuning map is {{val| 1199.552 1901.846 2783.579 3371.401 4153.996 }}. Applying that to 12/11 gives a generator of 146.995, and multiplying that by 1200.000/1199.552 gives a POT<sub>2</sub> tuning, or extended POTE tuning, of 147.010. Converting the tuning map to weighted coordinates and subtracting {{val| 1200 1200 1200 1200 1200 }} gives {{val| -0.4475 -0.0685 -1.1778 0.9172 0.7741 }}. The ordinary Euclidean norm of this, i.e. the square root of the dot product, is 1.7414, and dividing by sqrt (5) gives the RMS error, 0.77879 cents. | For an example, consider [[Chromatic pairs#Indium|indium temperament]], with group 2.5/3.7/3.11/3 and [[comma basis]] 3025/3024 and 3125/3087. The corresponding full 11-limit temperament is of rank three, and using the [[Tenney-Euclidean tuning|usual methods]], in particular the pseudoinverse, we find that the T<sub>2</sub> (TE) tuning map is {{val| 1199.552 1901.846 2783.579 3371.401 4153.996 }}. Applying that to 12/11 gives a generator of 146.995, and multiplying that by 1200.000/1199.552 gives a POT<sub>2</sub> tuning, or extended POTE tuning, of 147.010. Converting the tuning map to weighted coordinates and subtracting {{val| 1200 1200 1200 1200 1200 }} gives {{val| -0.4475 -0.0685 -1.1778 0.9172 0.7741 }}. The ordinary Euclidean norm of this, i.e. the square root of the dot product, is 1.7414, and dividing by sqrt (5) gives the RMS error, 0.77879 cents. |