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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">By a //Don Page comma// is meant a comma computed from two other intervals by the method suggested by the Don Page paper, [[http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249|Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small]]. If a and b are two rational numbers &gt; 1, define r = ((a-1)(b+1)) / ((b-1)(a+1)). Suppose r reduced to lowest terms is p/q, and a and b are written in [[Monzos|monzo]] form as u and v. Then the Don Page comma is defined as DPC(a, b) = qu - pv, or else minus that if the size in cents is less than zero. The reason for introducing monzos is purely numerical; if monzos are not used the numerators and denominators of the Don Page comma quickly become so large they cannot easily be handled. In ratio form, the Don Page comma can be written a^q / b^p, or the reciprocal of that if that is less than 1.
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By a //Don Page comma// is meant a comma computed from two other intervals by the method suggested by the Don Page paper, [[http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249|Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small]]. If a and b are two rational numbers &gt; 1, define r = ((a-1)(b+1)) / ((b-1)(a+1)). Suppose r reduced to lowest terms is p/q, and a and b are written in [[Monzos|monzo]] form as u and v. Then the Don Page comma is defined as DPC(a, b) = qu - pv, or else minus that if the size in cents is less than zero. The reason for introducing monzos is purely numerical; if monzos are not used the numerators and denominators of the Don Page comma quickly become so large they cannot easily be handled. In ratio form, the Don Page comma can be written a^q / b^p, or the reciprocal of that if that is less than 1.


If we write r as ((a-1)/(a+1)) / ((b-1)/(b+1)), then depending on common factors we have that the corresponding Don Page comma is equal to an nth power of a^((b-1)/(b+1)) / b^((a-1)/(a+1)) for some n. If we set a = 1+x, b = 1+y, then r = r(x, y) is an analytic function of two complex variables with a power series expansion around x=0, y=0. This expansion begans as r(x, y) = 1 - (xy^3 - x^3y)/24 + (3xy^4 + x^2y^3 - x^3y^2 - 3x^4y)/48 + ..., with its first nonconstant term of total degree four, and so when x and y are small, r(x, y) will be close to 1. If n is not 1, the nth power will still be close to 1, and if there are common factors in the denominators of the exponents, the resulting comma will be less complex (lower in height), and this is the really interesting case. For example, if a = 7/6 and b = 27/25, we obtain (7/6)^(1/26) / (27/25)^(1/13), the lcm of 13 and 26 is 26, and taking the 26th power gives us 4375/4374. The common factor of 13 leads to the resulting comma (4375/4374) being relatively simple.  
If we write r as ((a-1)/(a+1)) / ((b-1)/(b+1)), then depending on common factors we have that the corresponding Don Page comma is equal to an nth power of a^((b-1)/(b+1)) / b^((a-1)/(a+1)) for some n. If we set a = 1+x, b = 1+y, then r = r(x, y) is an analytic function of two complex variables with a power series expansion around x=0, y=0. This expansion begans as r(x, y) = 1 - (xy^3 - x^3y)/24 + (3xy^4 + x^2y^3 - x^3y^2 - 3x^4y)/48 + ..., with its first nonconstant term of total degree four, and so when x and y are small, r(x, y) will be close to 1. If n is not 1, the nth power will still be close to 1, and if there are common factors in the denominators of the exponents, the resulting comma will be less complex (lower in height), and this is the really interesting case. For example, if a = 7/6 and b = 27/25, we obtain (7/6)^(1/26) / (27/25)^(1/13), the lcm of 13 and 26 is 26, and taking the 26th power gives us 4375/4374. The common factor of 13 leads to the resulting comma (4375/4374) being relatively simple.  
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DPC(176/175, 540/539) = |-58 -249 -137 139 110&gt;</pre></div>
DPC(176/175, 540/539) = |-58 -249 -137 139 110&gt;</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Don Page comma&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;By a &lt;em&gt;Don Page comma&lt;/em&gt; is meant a comma computed from two other intervals by the method suggested by the Don Page paper, &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249" rel="nofollow"&gt;Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small&lt;/a&gt;. If a and b are two rational numbers &amp;gt; 1, define r = ((a-1)(b+1)) / ((b-1)(a+1)). Suppose r reduced to lowest terms is p/q, and a and b are written in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; form as u and v. Then the Don Page comma is defined as DPC(a, b) = qu - pv, or else minus that if the size in cents is less than zero. The reason for introducing monzos is purely numerical; if monzos are not used the numerators and denominators of the Don Page comma quickly become so large they cannot easily be handled. In ratio form, the Don Page comma can be written a^q / b^p, or the reciprocal of that if that is less than 1.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Don Page comma&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextLocalImageRule:0:&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;text-align: center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;/file/view/mathhazard.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center"&gt;&lt;img src="/file/view/mathhazard.jpg" alt="mathhazard.jpg" title="mathhazard.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextLocalImageRule:0 --&gt;By a &lt;em&gt;Don Page comma&lt;/em&gt; is meant a comma computed from two other intervals by the method suggested by the Don Page paper, &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249" rel="nofollow"&gt;Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small&lt;/a&gt;. If a and b are two rational numbers &amp;gt; 1, define r = ((a-1)(b+1)) / ((b-1)(a+1)). Suppose r reduced to lowest terms is p/q, and a and b are written in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; form as u and v. Then the Don Page comma is defined as DPC(a, b) = qu - pv, or else minus that if the size in cents is less than zero. The reason for introducing monzos is purely numerical; if monzos are not used the numerators and denominators of the Don Page comma quickly become so large they cannot easily be handled. In ratio form, the Don Page comma can be written a^q / b^p, or the reciprocal of that if that is less than 1.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we write r as ((a-1)/(a+1)) / ((b-1)/(b+1)), then depending on common factors we have that the corresponding Don Page comma is equal to an nth power of a^((b-1)/(b+1)) / b^((a-1)/(a+1)) for some n. If we set a = 1+x, b = 1+y, then r = r(x, y) is an analytic function of two complex variables with a power series expansion around x=0, y=0. This expansion begans as r(x, y) = 1 - (xy^3 - x^3y)/24 + (3xy^4 + x^2y^3 - x^3y^2 - 3x^4y)/48 + ..., with its first nonconstant term of total degree four, and so when x and y are small, r(x, y) will be close to 1. If n is not 1, the nth power will still be close to 1, and if there are common factors in the denominators of the exponents, the resulting comma will be less complex (lower in height), and this is the really interesting case. For example, if a = 7/6 and b = 27/25, we obtain (7/6)^(1/26) / (27/25)^(1/13), the lcm of 13 and 26 is 26, and taking the 26th power gives us 4375/4374. The common factor of 13 leads to the resulting comma (4375/4374) being relatively simple. &lt;br /&gt;
If we write r as ((a-1)/(a+1)) / ((b-1)/(b+1)), then depending on common factors we have that the corresponding Don Page comma is equal to an nth power of a^((b-1)/(b+1)) / b^((a-1)/(a+1)) for some n. If we set a = 1+x, b = 1+y, then r = r(x, y) is an analytic function of two complex variables with a power series expansion around x=0, y=0. This expansion begans as r(x, y) = 1 - (xy^3 - x^3y)/24 + (3xy^4 + x^2y^3 - x^3y^2 - 3x^4y)/48 + ..., with its first nonconstant term of total degree four, and so when x and y are small, r(x, y) will be close to 1. If n is not 1, the nth power will still be close to 1, and if there are common factors in the denominators of the exponents, the resulting comma will be less complex (lower in height), and this is the really interesting case. For example, if a = 7/6 and b = 27/25, we obtain (7/6)^(1/26) / (27/25)^(1/13), the lcm of 13 and 26 is 26, and taking the 26th power gives us 4375/4374. The common factor of 13 leads to the resulting comma (4375/4374) being relatively simple. &lt;br /&gt;