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The goal of TAMNAMS mos names is to choose memorable names for the most common octave-equivalent mosses. Generally, names should befit the mos they're describing ''no matter what temperaments support it'', allowing them to be discussed agnostically of any RTT-related contexts.

Names are given to mosses that are the most likely to be used by musicians. As such, TAMNAMS primarily provides names for mosses within the range of 6 to 10 steps (or 2 to 10 steps, when including the extended named range for smaller mosses). This range is chosen to avoid naming large mosses for the sake of naming.

Names are given to mosses that are the most likely to be used by musicians. As such, TAMNAMS primarily provides names for mosses within the range of 6 to 10 steps (or 2 to 10 steps, when including the extended named range for smaller mosses). This range is chosen to avoid naming large mosses for the sake of naming. Note that some of these reasonings also serve as justifications for abandoning certain names for their current ones.

===General reasonings===

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Temperament-based names ending in the prefix ''-oid'' refer to [[Exotemperament|exotemperaments]] (low-accuracy temperametns) whose tuning ranges, when including extreme tunings, cover the entirety of their corresponding mosses. Therefore, edos with simple step ratios for that mos will correspond to valid tunings for that temperament (if not by patent val, then with a small number of warts). Such names include ''machinoid'', ''dicoid'', and ''sephiroid'', in reference to ''machine'', ''dichotic/dicot'', and ''sephiroth'' temperaments, respectively; for more information, see their specific reasonings under <section>.

Originally, 3L 5s, 6L 2s, 2L 7s, and 4L 5s were called ''sensoid'', ''echidnoid'', ''joanatonic'', and ''orwelloid'', respectively. These names were dropped since the temperaments [[sensi]], [[echidna]], [[joan]], and [[orwell]] were not suitable as exotemperaments, and the ''-oid'' suffix should refer to such.

=== Relationship-based reasonings ===

Reasonings that do not fall under any of the general reasonings are likely to have a relationship-based reasoning, where groups of mosses related by sisterhood or parenthood are given names based on a common theme.

====Monolarge mosses (if no other gemstone names are adopted)====

[[Step-generated scale|Monolarge]] mosses (mosses of the form 1L ''n''s) are given names based on their sister mos (''n''L 1s), with the ''anti-'' prefix added. The exception to this is 1L 6s, given the name ''onyx'' for the following reasonings:<blockquote>"1Ln-ic's" and "nL1-ic's (like, the -ic suffix applied to MOSS names, collectivised for 1Lns and nL1s) sounds like "one-el-en-ics" or "en-el-one-ics" which abbreviated sort of sounds like "one-ics" => "onyx". Then "onyx" sounds sort of like "one-six". Furthermore the onyx mineral comes in many colours and types, which seems fitting given this is the parent scale for a wide variety of MOSSes; specifically of interest being 7L 1s (pine), 8L 1s (subneutralic) and 9L 1s (sinatonic). Finally, the name "onyx" is also supposed to be vaguely reminiscent of "anti-archaeotonic" as "chi" (the greek letter) is written like an "x" (this is related to why "christmas" is abbreviated sometimes as "X-mas") and other than that, the letters "o" and "n" and their sounds are also present in "archaeotonic", and "x" is vaguely reminiscent of negation and multiplication. There is also something like a "y" sound in "archaeotonic" in the "aeo" part (depending partially on your pronounciation).</blockquote>

[[Step-generated scale|Monolarge]] mosses (mosses of the form 1L ''n''s) are given names based on their sister mos (''n''L 1s), with the ''anti-'' prefix added. The exception to this is 1L 6s, given the name ''onyx'' for the following reasonings:<blockquote>"1Ln-ic's" and "nL1-ic's (like, the -ic suffix applied to MOSS names, collectivised for 1Lns and nL1s) sounds like "one-el-en-ics" or "en-el-one-ics" which abbreviated sort of sounds like "one-ics" => "onyx". Then "onyx" sounds sort of like "one-six". Furthermore the onyx mineral comes in many colours and types, which seems fitting given this is the parent scale for a wide variety of MOSSes; specifically of interest being 7L 1s (pine), 8L 1s (subneutralic) and 9L 1s (sinatonic). Finally, the name "onyx" is also supposed to be vaguely reminiscent of "anti-archaeotonic" as "chi" (the greek letter) is written like an "x" (this is related to why "christmas" is abbreviated sometimes as "X-mas") and other than that, the letters "o" and "n" and their sounds are also present in "archaeotonic", and "x" is vaguely reminiscent of negation and multiplication. There is also something like a "y" sound in "archaeotonic" in the "aeo" part (depending partially on your pronounciation).</blockquote>Monolarge mosses were originally left unnamed due to the tuning ranges for these mosses being so large that they were unhelpful with knowing how they sound. This position was later amended as it's useful for describing structure in situations where one does not want to use the mathematical name, and especially in such contexts, a specific tuning will likely be specified.

==== Monolarge mosses (if all gemstone names are adopted) ====

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====Malic (2L 4s), citric (4L 2s), ~~lemon~~ (~~6L 4s~~), and ~~lime~~ (~~4L 6s~~)====

=====Malic (2L 4s), citric (4L 2s), lime (4L 6s), and lemon (6L 4s)=====

The names for 2L 4s and 4L 2s come from Latin ''malus'' and ''citrus'', meaning 'apple' and 'citrus', respectively. Apples have concave ends, whereas lemons and limes – both types of citrus fruits – have convex ends. Both are ubiquitous foods, justifying their use for these fairly small mosses.

~~Additionally, the~~ name ''citric'' is given to 4L 2s, as it is the parent mos of 6L 4s and 4L 6s, named after the citrus fruits ''lemon'' and ''lime'', respectively, under the reasoning that lemons are larger than limes, as are the step sizes of 6L 4s compared to that of 4L 6s.

The name ''citric'' is given to 4L 2s, as it is the parent mos of 6L 4s and 4L 6s, named after the citrus fruits ''lemon'' and ''lime'', respectively, under the reasoning that lemons are larger than limes, as are the step sizes of 6L 4s compared to that of 4L 6s.

Originally, the names for 4L 6s and 6L 4s were based on the duplication of the 2L 3s mos and were called ''dipentic'' and ''antidipentic'', respectively. These were changed to their current names as, at the time, the 5-note mosses required an octave period, thus these names required an equivalence interval of 4/1. Although the name ''pentic'' currently refers to a 2L 3s pattern with any size period, the current names were given for completeness, which warranted renaming the related mosses of 2L 4s and 4L 2s to what they are now.

====Subaric (2L 6s), jaric (2L 8s), and taric (8L 2s)====

The name ''jaric'' alludes to a few highly notable temperaments that exist in the tuning range of this mos, which is alluded to through the spelling and pronunciation of '''jaric''': [[Pajara|pa'''jar'''a]], [[Injera|in'''jer'''a]], and [[Diaschismic|diaschism'''ic''']]. These temperaments, except for diaschismic, have generally inaccurate tunings.

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The name ''subaric'' alludes to the fact that 2L 6s is the largest proper '''sub'''set mos of both j'''aric''' (2L 8s) and t'''aric''' (8L 2s).

~~=== Reasonings for multiperiod mosses ===~~

Mosses of the form ''n''L ''n''s are given names based on a Greek numeral prefix added to the base name ''wood'', in reference to the temperaments [[blackwood]] and [[whitewood]]. These mosses are special in that all mosses with the same number of periods ''n'' can be traced back to an ''n''L ''n''s mos, representing a mos consisting of only its generators and periods. In other words, these mosses are a 1L 1s pattern repeated ''n'' times in one octave.

~~This also means that, coincidentally, all mosses with ''n'' periods form a binary ''tree'' whose root is ''n''L ''n''s, lending credence to the wood-based name.~~

~~The names for all other multiperiod mosses, ''nx''L ''ny''s, follow the reasonings as stated in the previous section.~~

Originally, the names for 2L 8s and 8L 2s were based on the duplication of the 3L 2s mos and were called called ''antidimanic'' and ''dimanic'', respectively (note that ''manic'' was since changed to ''manual''). These were changed for the same reasons as with 4L 6s and 6L 4s, and similarly warranted renaming the related mosses of 2L 6s and 6L 2s (formerly ''echidnoid'', now ''ekic'').

{| class="wikitable"

|+~~Relationship between two~~-period mosses

|+Two-period mosses and name changes

!Pattern

!Name

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| rowspan="5" |''2L 2s''

| rowspan="5" |biwood

''(~~provided for reference~~)''

''(formerly unnamed)''

| rowspan="2" |4L 2s

| rowspan="2" |citric

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''(formerly dimanic)''

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=== Reasonings for multiperiod mosses ===

Mosses of the form ''n''L ''n''s are given names based on a Greek numeral prefix added to the base name ''wood'', in reference to the temperaments [[blackwood]] and [[whitewood]]. These mosses are special in that all mosses with the same number of periods ''n'' can be traced back to an ''n''L ''n''s mos, representing a mos consisting of only its generators and periods. In other words, these mosses are a 1L 1s pattern repeated ''n'' times in one octave.

This also means that, coincidentally, all mosses with ''n'' periods form a binary ''tree'' whose root is ''n''L ''n''s, lending credence to the wood-based name.

The names for all other multiperiod mosses, ''nx''L ''ny''s, follow the general or relationship-based reasonings as stated previously.

=== Reasonings for specific names ===

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This temperament is supported by {{Optimal ET sequence| 7, 10 and 17 }} equal divisions, with non-patent val tunings including (but not limited to) 7+7=14cd, 10+10=20e, 17+7=24cd, and 17+10=27ce.

====Armotonic (7L 2s)====

Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. Despite this, the name ''superdiatonic'' has seen some precedent of use on the wiki to refer to an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern, although it has had earlier use to refer to the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:

* From the page [[altered pentad]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to meantone[12], corresponding to 7L 5s:

<blockquote>''One drawback of meantone[12] (the so-called '''superdiatonic''' scale) is that it has only two each of the ordinary (5:6:7:8:9) [[otonal]] and [[utonal]] pentads, just as it has only two of each 7-limit [[tetrad]].''</blockquote>

* From the page [[mohajira]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to mohajira[10], corresponding to 7L 3s.

* From the page [[Composing Powerstart]], where ''superdiatonic'' is used to refer to porcupine[8], corresponding to 7L 1s:

<blockquote>''For starters, you might want to mess around with what's called "[[porcupine]]" temperament in [[22edo|22-EDO]]. The base diatonic-sized scale is (as steps out of 22-EDO) 4 3 3 3 3 3 3, and you can chromatically alter anything in that scale you want by 1 step out of 22. For instance, if you flat the 7, you get the scale 4 3 3 3 3 2 4, which is nice because it has a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord in it. There's another "'''superdiatonic'''" scale at 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 which you can morph the above into if you want, and a 15-note chromatic scale at 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2; feel free to not stick dogmatically to these exact scales but to change them as you desire.''</blockquote>What 7L 2s and 5L 2s ''do'' share in common is 7L 2s has two extra large steps compared to 5L 2s, and can be generalized to mosses of the form (5+2''k'')L 2s, with increasingly ''flat'' fifth-like intervals for their generators.

Due to these concerns, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it.

====On the term ''diatonic''====

In TAMNAMS, ''diatonic'' exclusively refers to 5L 2s. This is because while the term ''diatonic'' has accrued a variety of exact meanings over time, both within and outside the contexts of xenharmonic music theory, it has a clear choice of referent when talking about MOS scales: 5L 2s with an octave or tempered-octave period.

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~~==== Temperament-based names ====~~

~~==== Two-period mosses ====~~

Originally, the names for the 10-note multiperiod mosses of 4L 6s, 6L 4s, 2L 8s, and 8L 2s had names based on the duplication of a 5-note mos and were called ''dipentic'', ''antidipentic'', ''antidimanic'', and ''dimanic'', respectively. These were changed to their current names as, at the time, the 5-note mosses required an octave period, so these names falsely suggested that their equivalence interval was a double-octave, or 4/1. Although the names for mosses in the extended named range (fewer than 6 notes) can apply to mosses with non-octave equivalence intervals, the current names were given for completeness. This reconsideration also warranted renaming the related mosses of 4L 2s, 2L 6s, and 2L 4s.

~~==== Monolarge mosses ====~~

Monolarge mosses were originally left unnamed due to the tuning ranges for these mosses being so large that they were unhelpful with knowing how they sound. This position was later amended as it's useful for describing structure in situations where one does not want to use the mathematical name, and especially in such contexts, a specific tuning will likely be specified.

~~====Armotonic (7L 2s)====~~

Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. Despite this, the name ''superdiatonic'' has seen some precedent of use on the wiki to refer to an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern, although it has had earlier use to refer to the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:

* From the page [[altered pentad]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to meantone[12], corresponding to 7L 5s:

<blockquote>''One drawback of meantone[12] (the so-called '''superdiatonic''' scale) is that it has only two each of the ordinary (5:6:7:8:9) [[otonal]] and [[utonal]] pentads, just as it has only two of each 7-limit [[tetrad]].''</blockquote>

* From the page [[mohajira]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to mohajira[10], corresponding to 7L 3s.

* From the page [[Composing Powerstart]], where ''superdiatonic'' is used to refer to porcupine[8], corresponding to 7L 1s:

<blockquote>''For starters, you might want to mess around with what's called "[[porcupine]]" temperament in [[22edo|22-EDO]]. The base diatonic-sized scale is (as steps out of 22-EDO) 4 3 3 3 3 3 3, and you can chromatically alter anything in that scale you want by 1 step out of 22. For instance, if you flat the 7, you get the scale 4 3 3 3 3 2 4, which is nice because it has a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord in it. There's another "'''superdiatonic'''" scale at 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 which you can morph the above into if you want, and a 15-note chromatic scale at 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2; feel free to not stick dogmatically to these exact scales but to change them as you desire.''</blockquote>What 7L 2s and 5L 2s ''do'' share in common is 7L 2s has two extra large steps compared to 5L 2s, and can be generalized to mosses of the form (5+2''k'')L 2s, with increasingly ''flat'' fifth-like intervals for their generators.

Due to these concerns, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it.

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 The goal of TAMNAMS mos names is to choose memorable names for the most common octave-equivalent mosses. Generally, names should befit the mos they're describing ''no matter what temperaments support it'', allowing them to be discussed agnostically of any RTT-related contexts.
-Names are given to mosses that are the most likely to be used by musicians. As such, TAMNAMS primarily provides names for mosses within the range of 6 to 10 steps (or 2 to 10 steps, when including the extended named range for smaller mosses). This range is chosen to avoid naming large mosses for the sake of naming.
+Names are given to mosses that are the most likely to be used by musicians. As such, TAMNAMS primarily provides names for mosses within the range of 6 to 10 steps (or 2 to 10 steps, when including the extended named range for smaller mosses). This range is chosen to avoid naming large mosses for the sake of naming. Note that some of these reasonings also serve as justifications for abandoning certain names for their current ones.
 ===General reasonings===
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 Temperament-based names ending in the prefix ''-oid'' refer to [[Exotemperament|exotemperaments]] (low-accuracy temperametns) whose tuning ranges, when including extreme tunings, cover the entirety of their corresponding mosses. Therefore, edos with simple step ratios for that mos will correspond to valid tunings for that temperament (if not by patent val, then with a small number of warts). Such names include ''machinoid'', ''dicoid'', and ''sephiroid'', in reference to ''machine'', ''dichotic/dicot'', and ''sephiroth'' temperaments, respectively; for more information, see their specific reasonings under <section>.
+Originally, 3L 5s, 6L 2s, 2L 7s, and 4L 5s were called ''sensoid'', ''echidnoid'', ''joanatonic'', and ''orwelloid'', respectively. These names were dropped since the temperaments [[sensi]], [[echidna]], [[joan]], and [[orwell]] were not suitable as exotemperaments, and the ''-oid'' suffix should refer to such.
 === Relationship-based reasonings ===
 Reasonings that do not fall under any of the general reasonings are likely to have a relationship-based reasoning, where groups of mosses related by sisterhood or parenthood are given names based on a common theme.
 ====Monolarge mosses (if no other gemstone names are adopted)====
-[[Step-generated scale|Monolarge]] mosses (mosses of the form 1L ''n''s) are given names based on their sister mos (''n''L 1s), with the ''anti-'' prefix added. The exception to this is 1L 6s, given the name ''onyx'' for the following reasonings:<blockquote>"1Ln-ic's" and "nL1-ic's (like, the -ic suffix applied to MOSS names, collectivised for 1Lns and nL1s) sounds like "one-el-en-ics" or "en-el-one-ics" which abbreviated sort of sounds like "one-ics" => "onyx". Then "onyx" sounds sort of like "one-six". Furthermore the onyx mineral comes in many colours and types, which seems fitting given this is the parent scale for a wide variety of MOSSes; specifically of interest being 7L 1s (pine), 8L 1s (subneutralic) and 9L 1s (sinatonic). Finally, the name "onyx" is also supposed to be vaguely reminiscent of "anti-archaeotonic" as "chi" (the greek letter) is written like an "x" (this is related to why "christmas" is abbreviated sometimes as "X-mas") and other than that, the letters "o" and "n" and their sounds are also present in "archaeotonic", and "x" is vaguely reminiscent of negation and multiplication. There is also something like a "y" sound in "archaeotonic" in the "aeo" part (depending partially on your pronounciation).</blockquote>
+[[Step-generated scale|Monolarge]] mosses (mosses of the form 1L ''n''s) are given names based on their sister mos (''n''L 1s), with the ''anti-'' prefix added. The exception to this is 1L 6s, given the name ''onyx'' for the following reasonings:<blockquote>"1Ln-ic's" and "nL1-ic's (like, the -ic suffix applied to MOSS names, collectivised for 1Lns and nL1s) sounds like "one-el-en-ics" or "en-el-one-ics" which abbreviated sort of sounds like "one-ics" => "onyx". Then "onyx" sounds sort of like "one-six". Furthermore the onyx mineral comes in many colours and types, which seems fitting given this is the parent scale for a wide variety of MOSSes; specifically of interest being 7L 1s (pine), 8L 1s (subneutralic) and 9L 1s (sinatonic). Finally, the name "onyx" is also supposed to be vaguely reminiscent of "anti-archaeotonic" as "chi" (the greek letter) is written like an "x" (this is related to why "christmas" is abbreviated sometimes as "X-mas") and other than that, the letters "o" and "n" and their sounds are also present in "archaeotonic", and "x" is vaguely reminiscent of negation and multiplication. There is also something like a "y" sound in "archaeotonic" in the "aeo" part (depending partially on your pronounciation).</blockquote>Monolarge mosses were originally left unnamed due to the tuning ranges for these mosses being so large that they were unhelpful with knowing how they sound. This position was later amended as it's useful for describing structure in situations where one does not want to use the mathematical name, and especially in such contexts, a specific tuning will likely be specified.
 ==== Monolarge mosses (if all gemstone names are adopted) ====
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-====Malic (2L 4s), citric (4L 2s), lemon (6L 4s), and lime (4L 6s)====
+=====Malic (2L 4s), citric (4L 2s), lime (4L 6s), and lemon (6L 4s)=====
 The names for 2L 4s and 4L 2s come from Latin ''malus'' and ''citrus'', meaning 'apple' and 'citrus', respectively. Apples have concave ends, whereas lemons and limes – both types of citrus fruits – have convex ends. Both are ubiquitous foods, justifying their use for these fairly small mosses.
-Additionally, the name ''citric'' is given to 4L 2s, as it is the parent mos of 6L 4s and 4L 6s, named after the citrus fruits ''lemon'' and ''lime'', respectively, under the reasoning that lemons are larger than limes, as are the step sizes of 6L 4s compared to that of 4L 6s.
+The name ''citric'' is given to 4L 2s, as it is the parent mos of 6L 4s and 4L 6s, named after the citrus fruits ''lemon'' and ''lime'', respectively, under the reasoning that lemons are larger than limes, as are the step sizes of 6L 4s compared to that of 4L 6s.
+Originally, the names for 4L 6s and 6L 4s were based on the duplication of the 2L 3s mos and were called ''dipentic'' and ''antidipentic'', respectively. These were changed to their current names as, at the time, the 5-note mosses required an octave period, thus these names required an equivalence interval of 4/1. Although the name ''pentic'' currently refers to a 2L 3s pattern with any size period, the current names were given for completeness, which warranted renaming the related mosses of 2L 4s and 4L 2s to what they are now.
 ====Subaric (2L 6s), jaric (2L 8s), and taric (8L 2s)====
 The name ''jaric'' alludes to a few highly notable temperaments that exist in the tuning range of this mos, which is alluded to through the spelling and pronunciation of '''jaric''': [[Pajara|pa'''jar'''a]], [[Injera|in'''jer'''a]], and [[Diaschismic|diaschism'''ic''']]. These temperaments, except for diaschismic, have generally inaccurate tunings.
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 The name ''subaric'' alludes to the fact that 2L 6s is the largest proper '''sub'''set mos of both j'''aric''' (2L 8s) and t'''aric''' (8L 2s).
-=== Reasonings for multiperiod mosses ===
-Mosses of the form ''n''L ''n''s are given names based on a Greek numeral prefix added to the base name ''wood'', in reference to the temperaments [[blackwood]] and [[whitewood]]. These mosses are special in that all mosses with the same number of periods ''n'' can be traced back to an ''n''L ''n''s mos, representing a mos consisting of only its generators and periods. In other words, these mosses are a 1L 1s pattern repeated ''n'' times in one octave.
-This also means that, coincidentally, all mosses with ''n'' periods form a binary ''tree'' whose root is ''n''L ''n''s, lending credence to the wood-based name.
-The names for all other multiperiod mosses, ''nx''L ''ny''s, follow the reasonings as stated in the previous section.
+Originally, the names for 2L 8s and 8L 2s were based on the duplication of the 3L 2s mos and were called called ''antidimanic'' and ''dimanic'', respectively (note that ''manic'' was since changed to ''manual''). These were changed for the same reasons as with 4L 6s and 6L 4s, and similarly warranted renaming the related mosses of 2L 6s and 6L 2s (formerly ''echidnoid'', now ''ekic'').
 {| class="wikitable"
-|+Relationship between two-period mosses
+|+Two-period mosses and name changes
 !Pattern
 !Name
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 | rowspan="5" |''2L 2s''
 | rowspan="5" |biwood
-''(provided for reference)''
+''(formerly unnamed)''
 | rowspan="2" |4L 2s
 | rowspan="2" |citric
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 ''(formerly dimanic)''
 |}
+=== Reasonings for multiperiod mosses ===
+Mosses of the form ''n''L ''n''s are given names based on a Greek numeral prefix added to the base name ''wood'', in reference to the temperaments [[blackwood]] and [[whitewood]]. These mosses are special in that all mosses with the same number of periods ''n'' can be traced back to an ''n''L ''n''s mos, representing a mos consisting of only its generators and periods. In other words, these mosses are a 1L 1s pattern repeated ''n'' times in one octave.
+This also means that, coincidentally, all mosses with ''n'' periods form a binary ''tree'' whose root is ''n''L ''n''s, lending credence to the wood-based name.
+The names for all other multiperiod mosses, ''nx''L ''ny''s, follow the general or relationship-based reasonings as stated previously.
 === Reasonings for specific names ===
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 This temperament is supported by {{Optimal ET sequence| 7, 10 and 17 }} equal divisions, with non-patent val tunings including (but not limited to) 7+7=14cd, 10+10=20e, 17+7=24cd, and 17+10=27ce.
+====Armotonic (7L 2s)====
+Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. Despite this, the name ''superdiatonic'' has seen some precedent of use on the wiki to refer to an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern, although it has had earlier use to refer to the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:
+* From the page [[altered pentad]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to meantone[12], corresponding to 7L 5s:
+<blockquote>''One drawback of meantone[12] (the so-called '''superdiatonic''' scale) is that it has only two each of the ordinary (5:6:7:8:9) [[otonal]] and [[utonal]] pentads, just as it has only two of each 7-limit [[tetrad]].''</blockquote>
+* From the page [[mohajira]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to mohajira[10], corresponding to 7L 3s.
+* From the page [[Composing Powerstart]], where ''superdiatonic'' is used to refer to porcupine[8], corresponding to 7L 1s:
+<blockquote>''For starters, you might want to mess around with what's called "[[porcupine]]" temperament in [[22edo|22-EDO]]. The base diatonic-sized scale is (as steps out of 22-EDO) 4 3 3 3 3 3 3, and you can chromatically alter anything in that scale you want by 1 step out of 22. For instance, if you flat the 7, you get the scale 4 3 3 3 3 2 4, which is nice because it has a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord in it. There's another "'''superdiatonic'''" scale at 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 which you can morph the above into if you want, and a 15-note chromatic scale at 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2; feel free to not stick dogmatically to these exact scales but to change them as you desire.''</blockquote>What 7L 2s and 5L 2s ''do'' share in common is 7L 2s has two extra large steps compared to 5L 2s, and can be generalized to mosses of the form (5+2''k'')L 2s, with increasingly ''flat'' fifth-like intervals for their generators.
+Due to these concerns, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it.
 ====On the term ''diatonic''====
 In TAMNAMS, ''diatonic'' exclusively refers to 5L 2s. This is because while the term ''diatonic'' has accrued a variety of exact meanings over time, both within and outside the contexts of xenharmonic music theory, it has a clear choice of referent when talking about MOS scales: 5L 2s with an octave or tempered-octave period.
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-==== Temperament-based names ====
-==== Two-period mosses ====
-Originally, the names for the 10-note multiperiod mosses of 4L 6s, 6L 4s, 2L 8s, and 8L 2s had names based on the duplication of a 5-note mos and were called ''dipentic'', ''antidipentic'', ''antidimanic'', and ''dimanic'', respectively. These were changed to their current names as, at the time, the 5-note mosses required an octave period, so these names falsely suggested that their equivalence interval was a double-octave, or 4/1. Although the names for mosses in the extended named range (fewer than 6 notes) can apply to mosses with non-octave equivalence intervals, the current names were given for completeness. This reconsideration also warranted renaming the related mosses of 4L 2s, 2L 6s, and 2L 4s.
-==== Monolarge mosses ====
-Monolarge mosses were originally left unnamed due to the tuning ranges for these mosses being so large that they were unhelpful with knowing how they sound. This position was later amended as it's useful for describing structure in situations where one does not want to use the mathematical name, and especially in such contexts, a specific tuning will likely be specified.
-====Armotonic (7L 2s)====
-Originally, the name ''superdiatonic'' was used for 7L 2s, under the assumption that it was given by Armodue theorists, but this turned out to be a misattribution. Despite this, the name ''superdiatonic'' has seen some precedent of use on the wiki to refer to an octave-equivalent 7L 2s pattern, although it has had earlier use to refer to the expansion of a smaller mos to a larger one:
-* From the page [[altered pentad]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to meantone[12], corresponding to 7L 5s:
-<blockquote>''One drawback of meantone[12] (the so-called '''superdiatonic''' scale) is that it has only two each of the ordinary (5:6:7:8:9) [[otonal]] and [[utonal]] pentads, just as it has only two of each 7-limit [[tetrad]].''</blockquote>
-* From the page [[mohajira]], where ''superdiatonic'' refers to mohajira[10], corresponding to 7L 3s.
-* From the page [[Composing Powerstart]], where ''superdiatonic'' is used to refer to porcupine[8], corresponding to 7L 1s:
-<blockquote>''For starters, you might want to mess around with what's called "[[porcupine]]" temperament in [[22edo|22-EDO]]. The base diatonic-sized scale is (as steps out of 22-EDO) 4 3 3 3 3 3 3, and you can chromatically alter anything in that scale you want by 1 step out of 22. For instance, if you flat the 7, you get the scale 4 3 3 3 3 2 4, which is nice because it has a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord in it. There's another "'''superdiatonic'''" scale at 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 which you can morph the above into if you want, and a 15-note chromatic scale at 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2; feel free to not stick dogmatically to these exact scales but to change them as you desire.''</blockquote>What 7L 2s and 5L 2s ''do'' share in common is 7L 2s has two extra large steps compared to 5L 2s, and can be generalized to mosses of the form (5+2''k'')L 2s, with increasingly ''flat'' fifth-like intervals for their generators.
-Due to these concerns, the name ''armotonic'' is normally advised over ''superdiatonic'' as the former is unambiguous as to what it refers to, and the name ''superdiatonic'' is only allowed in situations where it's truly unambiguous if the writer prefers it.