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<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2>
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: This revision was by author [[User:genewardsmith|genewardsmith]] and made on <tt>2012-01-09 19:54:21 UTC</tt>.<br>
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Map: [&lt;1 1 2 1|, &lt;0 2 1 6|]
Map: [&lt;1 1 2 1|, &lt;0 2 1 6|]
EDOs: [[10edo|10]], [[37edo|37cd]], [[57edo|57bcd]]
EDOs: [[10edo|10]], [[37edo|37cd]], [[57edo|57bcd]]
==11-limit==
Commas: 25/24, 28/27, 35/33
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 356.106
Map: [&lt;1 1 2 1 2|, &lt;0 2 1 6 5|]
EDOs: 10, 17d, 27cde
Badness: 0.0224


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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Dicot family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:32:&amp;lt;img id=&amp;quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;Table of Contents&amp;quot; src=&amp;quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;amp;h=16&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:32 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:33: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:33 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:34: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Dicot"&gt;Dicot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:34 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:35: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:35 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:36: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:36 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:37: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Flat"&gt;Flat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:37 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:38: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Sharp"&gt;Sharp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:38 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:39: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:39 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:40: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Decimal"&gt;Decimal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:40 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:41: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:41 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:42: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:42 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:43: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Dichotic"&gt;Dichotic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:43 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:44: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:44 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:45: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Jamesbond"&gt;Jamesbond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:45 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:46: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Sidi"&gt;Sidi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:46 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:47: --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:47 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:48: --&gt; | &lt;a href="#Quad"&gt;Quad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:48 --&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:49: --&gt;
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The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; parent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/comma"&gt;comma&lt;/a&gt; for the dicot family is 25/24, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/chromatic%20semitone"&gt;chromatic semitone&lt;/a&gt;. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |-3 -1 2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 1 -3|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the generator is a third (major and minor mean the same thing), and that two thirds gives a fifth. In fact, (5/4)^2 = 3/2 * 25/24. Possible tunings for dicot are &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo"&gt;7edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;24 38 55| and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;31 49 71|. In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and pretending that's 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve pretending dicot is at the edge of what can sensibly be called a temperament at all.&lt;br /&gt;
The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; parent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/comma"&gt;comma&lt;/a&gt; for the dicot family is 25/24, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/chromatic%20semitone"&gt;chromatic semitone&lt;/a&gt;. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; is |-3 -1 2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 1 -3|| for the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/wedgie"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;. This tells us the generator is a third (major and minor mean the same thing), and that two thirds gives a fifth. In fact, (5/4)^2 = 3/2 * 25/24. Possible tunings for dicot are &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo"&gt;7edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;24 38 55| and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt; using the val &amp;lt;31 49 71|. In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and pretending that's 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve pretending dicot is at the edge of what can sensibly be called a temperament at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10edo"&gt;10&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo"&gt;37cd&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/57edo"&gt;57bcd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10edo"&gt;10&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo"&gt;37cd&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/57edo"&gt;57bcd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 28/27, 35/33&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~5/4 = 356.106&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 1 2 1 2|, &amp;lt;0 2 1 6 5|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 17d, 27cde&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0224&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 49/48&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 49/48&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0283&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0283&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 49/48&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 49/48&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0267&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0267&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 33/32, 49/48&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 33/32, 49/48&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0315&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0315&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0376&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0376&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0307&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0307&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 81/80&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 81/80&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 7, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/14edo"&gt;14c&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 7, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/14edo"&gt;14c&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0566&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0566&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 25/24, 45/44, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
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Badness: 0.0330&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0330&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 9/8, 25/24&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 9/8, 25/24&lt;br /&gt;
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