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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2>, and flipping that yields <<2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]] or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.

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The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2>, and flipping that yields <<2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]] or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.

[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 704.898

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==13-limit==

Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243

POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.654

Map: [<2 1 9 -2 8 -10|, <0 2 -4 7 -1 16|]

EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114

Badness: 0.0281

==17-limit==

Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195

POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.647

Map: [<2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6|, <0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2|]

EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182

Badness: 0.0187

==19-limit==

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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Diaschismic family</title></head><body>The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34edo</a> is a good tuning choice, with <a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo">46edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo">56edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80edo</a> being other possibilities. Both <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.<br />

<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Diaschismic family</title></head><body> | <a href="#Pajara">Pajara</a> | <a href="#Diaschismic">Diaschismic</a> | <a href="#Keen">Keen</a> | <a href="#Echidna">Echidna</a> | <a href="#Echidnic">Echidnic</a> | <a href="#Shrutar">Shrutar</a>

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The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34edo</a> is a good tuning choice, with <a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo">46edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo">56edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80edo</a> being other possibilities. Both <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.<br />

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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 704.898<br />

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<h2 id="toc18"><a name="Shrutar-13-limit"></a>13-limit</h2>

Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243<br />

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POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.654<br />

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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16|]<br />

EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114<br />

Badness: 0.0281<br />

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<h2 id="toc19"><a name="Shrutar-17-limit"></a>17-limit</h2>

Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195<br />

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POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.647<br />

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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2|]<br />

EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182<br />

Badness: 0.0187<br />

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<h2 id="toc20"><a name="Shrutar-19-limit"></a>19-limit</h2>

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-<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]] or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.
+<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc|flat]]
+The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]] or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.
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 ==13-limit==
+Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243
+POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.654
+Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16|]
+EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114
+Badness: 0.0281
 ==17-limit==
+Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195
+POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.647
+Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2|]
+EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182
+Badness: 0.0187
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+The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo"&gt;34edo&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning choice, with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo"&gt;56edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo"&gt;80edo&lt;/a&gt; being other possibilities. Both &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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+Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
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+POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.654&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;br /&gt;
+Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16|]&lt;br /&gt;
+EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114&lt;br /&gt;
+Badness: 0.0281&lt;br /&gt;
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+Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;br /&gt;
+POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.647&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;br /&gt;
+Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2|]&lt;br /&gt;
+EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182&lt;br /&gt;
+Badness: 0.0187&lt;br /&gt;
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