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Map: [<2 0 11 -23 26|, <0 1 -2 9 -6|] | Map: [<2 0 11 -23 26|, <0 1 -2 9 -6|] | ||
EDOs: 22, 56, 78 | EDOs: 22, 56, 78 | ||
=Bidia= | |||
Bidia adds 3136/3125 to the commas, splitting the period into 1/4 octave. It may be called the 12&56 temperament. | |||
Commas: 2048/2025, 3136/3125 | |||
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.364 | |||
Map: [<4 0 22 43|,<0 1 -2 -5|] | |||
Wedgie: <<4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24|| | |||
EDOs: 12, 56, 68, 80, 148 | |||
Badness: 0.0565 | |||
==11-limit== | |||
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 1375/1372 | |||
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.087 | |||
Map: [<4 0 22 43 71|,<0 1 -2 -5 -9|] | |||
EDOs: 12, 68, 80 | |||
Badness: 0.0402 | |||
==13-limit== | |||
Commas: 176/175, 325/324, 640/637, 896/891 | |||
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.301 | |||
Map: [<4 0 22 43 71|,<0 1 -2 -5 -9|] | |||
EDOs: 12, 68, 80, 148, 228 | |||
Badness: 0.0411 | |||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Diaschismic family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule: | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Diaschismic family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:48:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:48 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:49: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:49 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:50: --> | <a href="#Pajara">Pajara</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:50 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:51: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:51 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:52: --> | <a href="#Diaschismic">Diaschismic</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:52 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:53: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:53 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:54: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:54 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:55: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:55 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:56: --> | <a href="#Keen">Keen</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:56 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:57: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:57 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:58: --> | <a href="#Bidia">Bidia</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:58 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:59: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:59 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:60: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:60 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:61: --> | <a href="#Echidna">Echidna</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:61 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:62: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:62 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:63: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:63 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:64: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:64 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:65: --> | <a href="#Echidnic">Echidnic</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:65 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:66: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:66 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:67: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:67 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:68: --> | <a href="#Shrutar">Shrutar</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:68 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:69: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:69 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:70: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:70 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:71: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:71 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:72: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:72 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:73: --> | ||
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The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34edo</a> is a good tuning choice, with <a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo">46edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo">56edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80edo</a> being other possibilities. Both <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.<br /> | The 5-limit parent comma for the diaschismic family is 2048/2025, the diaschisma. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or srutal, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. <a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo">34edo</a> is a good tuning choice, with <a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo">46edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo">56edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80edo</a> being other possibilities. Both <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo">22edo</a> support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 22, 56, 78<br /> | EDOs: 22, 56, 78<br /> | ||
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Bidia adds 3136/3125 to the commas, splitting the period into 1/4 octave. It may be called the 12&amp;56 temperament.<br /> | |||
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Commas: 2048/2025, 3136/3125<br /> | |||
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.364<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5|]<br /> | |||
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24||<br /> | |||
EDOs: 12, 56, 68, 80, 148<br /> | |||
Badness: 0.0565<br /> | |||
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Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 1375/1372<br /> | |||
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.087<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]<br /> | |||
EDOs: 12, 68, 80<br /> | |||
Badness: 0.0402<br /> | |||
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Commas: 176/175, 325/324, 640/637, 896/891<br /> | |||
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.301<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]<br /> | |||
EDOs: 12, 68, 80, 148, 228<br /> | |||
Badness: 0.0411<br /> | |||
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Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &lt;&lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;58 temperament. <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58et</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80et</a> make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &lt;138 219 321 388|.<br /> | Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &lt;&lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;58 temperament. <a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo">58et</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo">80et</a> make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &lt;138 219 321 388|.<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0580<br /> | Badness: 0.0580<br /> | ||
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Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539<br /> | Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0260<br /> | Badness: 0.0260<br /> | ||
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Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539<br /> | Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0237<br /> | Badness: 0.0237<br /> | ||
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Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539<br /> | Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0203<br /> | Badness: 0.0203<br /> | ||
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Commas: 686/675, 1029/1024<br /> | Commas: 686/675, 1029/1024<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0722<br /> | Badness: 0.0722<br /> | ||
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Commas: 385/384, 441/440, 686/675<br /> | Commas: 385/384, 441/440, 686/675<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0451<br /> | Badness: 0.0451<br /> | ||
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Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 385/384, 441/440<br /> | Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 385/384, 441/440<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0289<br /> | Badness: 0.0289<br /> | ||
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Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. <a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo">68edo</a> makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.<br /> | Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. <a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo">68edo</a> makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250<br /> | EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 250<br /> | ||
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Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120<br /> | Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120<br /> | ||
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EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410<br /> | EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 410<br /> | ||
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Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243<br /> | Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0281<br /> | Badness: 0.0281<br /> | ||
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Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195<br /> | Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195<br /> | ||
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Badness: 0.0187<br /> | Badness: 0.0187<br /> | ||
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Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/154, 176/175, 196/195, 343/342<br /> | Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/154, 176/175, 196/195, 343/342<br /> | ||
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