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{{Wikipedia| Septimal meantone temperament }} | {{Wikipedia| Septimal meantone temperament }} | ||
The [[7/4]] in septimal meantone is the augmented sixth (C- | The [[7/4]] in septimal meantone is the augmented sixth (C-A♯), and other septimal intervals are [[7/6]], the augmented second (C-D♯), [[7/5]], the augmented fourth (C-F♯), and [[21/16]], the augmented third (C-E♯). Septimal meantone tempers out the common 7-limit commas [[126/125]] and [[225/224]] and in fact can be defined as the 7-limit temperament that tempers out any two of 81/80, 126/125 and 225/224. | ||
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===== Meantonic ===== | ===== Meantonic ===== | ||
Dubbed ''meantonic'' here, this extension maps the 17/16 to the triple augmented seventh (C- | Dubbed ''meantonic'' here, this extension maps the 17/16 to the octave-reduced triple augmented seventh (C-B𝄪♯), and 19/16 to the quadruple augmented unison (C-C𝄪𝄪). The major second is now 19/17, and 17/16 is conflated with 19/18, as do all the other extensions discussed below. 31edo also conflates 17/16~19/18 with 16/15 whereas 50edo conflates all of 17/16, 18/17, 19/18, and 20/19, so a good tuning would be somewhere in this range. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
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===== Meantoid ===== | ===== Meantoid ===== | ||
Dubbed ''meantoid'' here, this extension maps 17/16~19/18 to the augmented unison (C- | Dubbed ''meantoid'' here, this extension maps 17/16~19/18 to the augmented unison (C-C♯) and 19/16 to the augmented second (C-D♯). For any tuning flatter than 12edo, the sizes of 17/16 (augmented unison) and 18/17 (minor second) are inverse, so genuine septendecimal and undevicesimal harmony cannot be expected. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
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===== Huygens ===== | ===== Huygens ===== | ||
Dubbed ''huygens'' here, this extension is perhaps the most practical, as it maps 17/16 to the minor second (C- | Dubbed ''huygens'' here, this extension is perhaps the most practical, as it maps 17/16 to the minor second (C-D♭), and 19/16 to the minor third (C-E♭), suitable for a system generated by a mildly tempered fifth. | ||
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==== Grosstone ==== | ==== Grosstone ==== | ||
Grosstone maps 13/8 to the double diminished seventh (C- | Grosstone maps 13/8 to the double diminished seventh (C-B♭♭♭). | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
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{{See also| Meantone vs meanpop }} | {{See also| Meantone vs meanpop }} | ||
Meanpop maps the 11/8 to the double diminished fifth (C- | Meanpop maps the 11/8 to the double diminished fifth (C-G𝄫), and tridecimal meanpop still maps the 13/8 to the double augmented fifth (C-G𝄪). Note also 11/10 is the double diminished third; 12/11~13/12, double augmented unison; and 14/13, minor second. | ||
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=== Meanenneadecal === | === Meanenneadecal === | ||
Meanenneadecal maps the 11/8 to the augmented fourth (C- | Meanenneadecal maps the 11/8 to the augmented fourth (C-F♯), and tridecimal meanenneadecal still maps the 13/8 to the double augmented fifth (C-G𝄪). Note also 11/10 is the major second; 12/11~14/13, minor second; and 13/12, double augmented unison. | ||
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=== Meanundeci === | === Meanundeci === | ||
Meanundeci is a low-complexity low-accuracy entry that maps the 11/8 to the perfect fourth (C-F), and tridecimal meanundeci maps the 13/8 to the minor sixth (C- | Meanundeci is a low-complexity low-accuracy entry that maps the 11/8 to the perfect fourth (C-F), and tridecimal meanundeci maps the 13/8 to the minor sixth (C-A♭). | ||
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== Flattone == | == Flattone == | ||
In flattone tunings, the fifth is typically even flatter than that of [[19edo]]. Here, 9 fourths get to the interval class for 7, | In flattone tunings, the fifth is typically even flatter than that of [[19edo]]. Here, 9 fourths get to the interval class for 7, so that [[7/4]] is a diminished seventh (C-B𝄫), [[7/6]] is a diminished third (C-E𝄫), and [[7/5]] is a doubly diminshed fifth (C-G𝄫). In general, septimal subminor intervals are diminished and septimal supermajor intervals are augmented, which makes it quite easy to learn flattone notation. Good tunings for flattone are [[26edo]], [[45edo]], and [[64edo]]. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||