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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">One measurement of the complexity of the comma could be the number of prime factors it has, regardless of their magnitude | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">One measurement of the complexity of the comma could be the number of prime factors it has, regardless of their magnitude, but counting repetitions. | ||
When combined with excluding the smallest primes, this measurement can give an idea of how many "strange harmonic moves" a comma is comprised of. | |||
=How to calculate taxicab distance on a prime-number lattice= | |||
To calculate the taxicab distance between 1/1 and any interval, take the sum of the absolute values of the exponents of the prime factorization. For the example of 81/80: | |||
= | 81/80 = 2^-4 * 3^4 * 5^-1 | ||
|-4| + |4| + |-1| = 9 | |||
= | This corresponds to an interval's unweighted [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp_space|L1]] distance on a prime-factor lattice, as opposed to the more common weighted L1 metric, corresponding to the log of Tenney/Benedetti Height. | ||
One way to add weighting back in is to exclude powers of 2 (to assume that powers of 2 don't affect the complexity of the move). For 81/80 we then get 4+1=5. | |||
If you discard powers of both 2 and 3, you get an understanding of commas relevant to [[sagittal corner|Sagittal notation]], which notates higher-prime-limit ratios in terms of their deviation from a cycle of fifths. In this sense, 81/80 has a taxicab distance of 1, as it contains only a single instance of 5, which is why in Sagittal notation it is called the "5-comma". | |||
=With powers of 2 taken for granted= | |||
==2-move commas== | |||
16/15 ( / 3 / 5) | 16/15 ( / 3 / 5) | ||
33/32 (3 * 11) | 33/32 (3 * 11) | ||
65/64 (5 * 13) | 65/64 (5 * 13) | ||
==3- | ==3-move commas== | ||
25/24 (5 * 5 / 3) | 25/24 (5 * 5 / 3) | ||
128/125 (5 * 5 * 5) | 128/125 (5 * 5 * 5) | ||
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512/507 (3 * 13 * 13) | 512/507 (3 * 13 * 13) | ||
169/160 (13 * 13 / 5) | 169/160 (13 * 13 / 5) | ||
176/169 (11 / 13 / 13)</pre></div> | 176/169 (11 / 13 / 13) | ||
=With powers of 2 and 3 taken for granted= | |||
The relation of powers of 3 to the other factor(s) is represented by "3's". The ones with names (all of them so far) have a corresponding sagittal accidental, though closeby commas share symbols. | |||
==1-move commas== | |||
81/80 ( 3's / 5 ) (5 comma) | |||
32805/32768 ( 3's * 5 ) (5 schisma) | |||
64/63 ( / 3's / 7) (7 comma) | |||
729/704 ( 3's / 11 ) (11-L diesis) | |||
33/32 ( 3's * 11 ) (11-M diesis) | |||
27/26 ( 3's / 13 ) (13-L diesis) | |||
1053/1024 ( 3's * 13 ) (13 M-diesis) | |||
2187/2176 ( 3's / 17 ) (17 kleisma) | |||
4131/4096 ( 3's * 17 ) (17 comma) | |||
513/512 ( 3's * 19 ) (19 schisma) | |||
19683/19456 ( 3's / 19 ) (19 comma) | |||
736/729 ( 23 / 3's ) (23 comma) | |||
261/256 ( 3's * 29 ) (29 comma) | |||
==2-move commas== | |||
(ordered and grouped by size of comma in just intonation) | |||
5103/5120 ( 3's * 7 / 5 ) (5:7 kleisma) | |||
352/351 ( 11 / 3's / 13 ) (11:13 kleisma) | |||
896/891 ( 7 / 3's / 11 ) (7:11 kleisma) | |||
2048/2025 ( / 3's / 5 / 5 ) (25 comma/diaschisma) | |||
55/54 ( 11 * 5 / 3's ) (55 comma) | |||
45927/45056 ( 3's * 7 / 11 ) (7:11 comma) | |||
52/51 ( 3's * 13 / 17 ) (13:17 comma) | |||
45/44 ( 3's * 5 / 11 ) (5:11 S-diesis) | |||
1701/1664 ( 3's * 7 / 13 ) (7:13 S-diesis) | |||
1408/1377 ( 11 / 3's / 17 ) (11:17 S-diesis) | |||
6561/6400 ( 3's / 5 / 5 ) (25 S-diesis) | |||
40/39 ( 5 / 3's / 13 ) (5:13 S-diesis) | |||
36/35 ( 3's / 5 / 7 ) (35 M-diesis) | |||
8505/8192 ( 3's * 5 * 7 ) (35 L-diesis) | |||
==3-move commas== | |||
250/243 ( 5 * 5 * 5 / 3's ) (125 M-diesis) | |||
531441/512000 ( 3's / 5 / 5 / 5 ) (125 L-diesis)</pre></div> | |||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>commas by taxicab distance</title></head><body>One measurement of the complexity of the comma could be the number of prime factors it has, regardless of their magnitude. | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>commas by taxicab distance</title></head><body>One measurement of the complexity of the comma could be the number of prime factors it has, regardless of their magnitude, but counting repetitions.<br /> | ||
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When combined with excluding the smallest primes, this measurement can give an idea of how many &quot;strange harmonic moves&quot; a comma is comprised of.<br /> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="How to calculate taxicab distance on a prime-number lattice"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->How to calculate taxicab distance on a prime-number lattice</h1> | |||
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To calculate the taxicab distance between 1/1 and any interval, take the sum of the absolute values of the exponents of the prime factorization. For the example of 81/80:<br /> | |||
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81/80 = 2^-4 * 3^4 * 5^-1<br /> | |||
|-4| + |4| + |-1| = 9<br /> | |||
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This corresponds to an interval's unweighted <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp_space" rel="nofollow">L1</a> distance on a prime-factor lattice, as opposed to the more common weighted L1 metric, corresponding to the log of Tenney/Benedetti Height.<br /> | |||
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For | One way to add weighting back in is to exclude powers of 2 (to assume that powers of 2 don't affect the complexity of the move). For 81/80 we then get 4+1=5.<br /> | ||
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< | If you discard powers of both 2 and 3, you get an understanding of commas relevant to <a class="wiki_link" href="/sagittal%20corner">Sagittal notation</a>, which notates higher-prime-limit ratios in terms of their deviation from a cycle of fifths. In this sense, 81/80 has a taxicab distance of 1, as it contains only a single instance of 5, which is why in Sagittal notation it is called the &quot;5-comma&quot;.<br /> | ||
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16/15 ( / 3 / 5)<br /> | 16/15 ( / 3 / 5)<br /> | ||
33/32 (3 * 11)<br /> | 33/32 (3 * 11)<br /> | ||
65/64 (5 * 13)<br /> | 65/64 (5 * 13)<br /> | ||
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25/24 (5 * 5 / 3)<br /> | 25/24 (5 * 5 / 3)<br /> | ||
128/125 (5 * 5 * 5)<br /> | 128/125 (5 * 5 * 5)<br /> | ||
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512/507 (3 * 13 * 13)<br /> | 512/507 (3 * 13 * 13)<br /> | ||
169/160 (13 * 13 / 5)<br /> | 169/160 (13 * 13 / 5)<br /> | ||
176/169 (11 / 13 / 13)</body></html></pre></div> | 176/169 (11 / 13 / 13)<br /> | ||
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The relation of powers of 3 to the other factor(s) is represented by &quot;3's&quot;. The ones with names (all of them so far) have a corresponding sagittal accidental, though closeby commas share symbols.<br /> | |||
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81/80 ( 3's / 5 ) (5 comma)<br /> | |||
32805/32768 ( 3's * 5 ) (5 schisma)<br /> | |||
64/63 ( / 3's / 7) (7 comma)<br /> | |||
729/704 ( 3's / 11 ) (11-L diesis)<br /> | |||
33/32 ( 3's * 11 ) (11-M diesis)<br /> | |||
27/26 ( 3's / 13 ) (13-L diesis)<br /> | |||
1053/1024 ( 3's * 13 ) (13 M-diesis)<br /> | |||
2187/2176 ( 3's / 17 ) (17 kleisma)<br /> | |||
4131/4096 ( 3's * 17 ) (17 comma)<br /> | |||
513/512 ( 3's * 19 ) (19 schisma)<br /> | |||
19683/19456 ( 3's / 19 ) (19 comma)<br /> | |||
736/729 ( 23 / 3's ) (23 comma)<br /> | |||
261/256 ( 3's * 29 ) (29 comma)<br /> | |||
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(ordered and grouped by size of comma in just intonation)<br /> | |||
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5103/5120 ( 3's * 7 / 5 ) (5:7 kleisma)<br /> | |||
352/351 ( 11 / 3's / 13 ) (11:13 kleisma)<br /> | |||
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896/891 ( 7 / 3's / 11 ) (7:11 kleisma)<br /> | |||
2048/2025 ( / 3's / 5 / 5 ) (25 comma/diaschisma)<br /> | |||
55/54 ( 11 * 5 / 3's ) (55 comma)<br /> | |||
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45927/45056 ( 3's * 7 / 11 ) (7:11 comma)<br /> | |||
52/51 ( 3's * 13 / 17 ) (13:17 comma)<br /> | |||
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45/44 ( 3's * 5 / 11 ) (5:11 S-diesis)<br /> | |||
1701/1664 ( 3's * 7 / 13 ) (7:13 S-diesis)<br /> | |||
1408/1377 ( 11 / 3's / 17 ) (11:17 S-diesis)<br /> | |||
<br /> | |||
6561/6400 ( 3's / 5 / 5 ) (25 S-diesis)<br /> | |||
40/39 ( 5 / 3's / 13 ) (5:13 S-diesis)<br /> | |||
<br /> | |||
36/35 ( 3's / 5 / 7 ) (35 M-diesis)<br /> | |||
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8505/8192 ( 3's * 5 * 7 ) (35 L-diesis)<br /> | |||
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250/243 ( 5 * 5 * 5 / 3's ) (125 M-diesis)<br /> | |||
531441/512000 ( 3's / 5 / 5 / 5 ) (125 L-diesis)</body></html></pre></div> | |||