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When plotted on the standard tonal lattice (in which the basis intervals have prime number frequency ratios up to some prime limit p) commas form a widely scattered cloud in which no obvious structure is discernible. But rebasing to a lattice in which the basis intervals are themselves of comma size has the effect of drawing a set of similar-sized commas into the region near the origin, where their interrelationships become apparent. The dual of such a lattice of commas is a lattice of equal temperaments (ETs), which provides a means of visualising the relationships between ETs and commas.
When plotted on the standard tonal lattice (in which the basis intervals have prime number frequency ratios up to some prime limit p) commas form a widely scattered cloud in which no obvious structure is discernible. But rebasing to a lattice in which the basis intervals are themselves of comma size has the effect of drawing a set of similar-sized commas into the region near the origin, where their interrelationships become apparent. The dual of such a lattice of commas is a lattice of equal temperaments (ETs), which provides a means of visualising the relationships between ETs and commas.
The theory behind this technique is set out below, illustrated for the 5-limit but extending in a straightforward way to any prime limit. An example of its application in the 5-limit can be viewed in this [[file:Comma lattice (syntonic, schisma, kleisma).xlsx|spreadsheet]].
The theory behind this technique is set out below, illustrated for the 5-limit but extending in a straightforward way to any prime limit. An example of its application in the 5-limit can be viewed in this [[file:Comma lattice (syntonic, schisma, kleisma).xlsx|spreadsheet]] and this [[file:Comma lattice (syntonic, schisma, kleisma) 3D.png|image]].
A just interval **//J//** is the product of a JI tuning vector and a monzo:
A just interval **//J//** is the product of a JI tuning vector and a monzo:
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The standard monzos representing the intervals __2__, __3__ and __5__, which in the standard lattice are orthogonal, fold up under the transformation like the spokes of a collapsing umbrella until they lie almost in a straight line. Other simple intervals, being small integer combinations of these primitive intervals, also lie close to this line. At the same time smaller intervals, of a size and complexity commensurate with that of the basis commas, are pulled in radially and away from the JI zero plane to populate the space near the origin.
The standard monzos representing the intervals __2__, __3__ and __5__, which in the standard lattice are orthogonal, fold up under the transformation like the spokes of a collapsing umbrella until they lie almost in a straight line. Other simple intervals, being small integer combinations of these primitive intervals, also lie close to this line. At the same time smaller intervals, of a size and complexity commensurate with that of the basis commas, are pulled in radially and away from the JI zero plane to populate the space near the origin.
Viewed as a val, a rebased lattice point represents a tuning vector for an ET, and intervals in this ET (for a given monzo lattice point) are measured by distance in integer steps from a zero plane normal passing through the origin normal to the tuning vector. Since monzos for simple intervals now lie in a narrow cone of directions, their sizes in relation to the octave are approximated well by most vals, even if those vals have tuning vectors not closely aligned with the (rebased) JI tuning vector. The exceptions are those vals whose tuning vectors point nearly perpendicular to the octave monzo, and thus come close to tempering out the octave and other simple intervals.
Viewed as a val, a rebased lattice point represents a tuning vector for an ET, and intervals in this ET (for a given monzo lattice point) are measured by distance in integer steps from a zero plane normal passing through the origin normal to the tuning vector. Since monzos for simple intervals now lie in a narrow cone of directions, their sizes in relation to the octave are approximated well by most vals, even if those vals have tuning vectors not closely aligned with the (rebased) JI tuning vector. The exceptions are those vals whose tuning vectors point nearly perpendicular to the octave monzo, and thus come close to tempering out the octave and other simple intervals.
With a suitable choice of basis intervals the rebased lattice can provide a framework for cataloguing both commas and ETs. In the 5-limit the following basis set (represented here by its rebased tuning vector) proves useful and is illustrated in the linked [[file:Comma lattice (syntonic, schisma, kleisma).xlsx|file]]:
With a suitable choice of basis intervals the rebased lattice can provide a framework for cataloguing both commas and ETs. In the 5-limit the following basis set (represented here by its rebased tuning vector) proves useful and is illustrated in the linked files:
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  When plotted on the standard tonal lattice (in which the basis intervals have prime number frequency ratios up to some prime limit p) commas form a widely scattered cloud in which no obvious structure is discernible. But rebasing to a lattice in which the basis intervals are themselves of comma size has the effect of drawing a set of similar-sized commas into the region near the origin, where their interrelationships become apparent. The dual of such a lattice of commas is a lattice of equal temperaments (ETs), which provides a means of visualising the relationships between ETs and commas.&lt;br /&gt;
  When plotted on the standard tonal lattice (in which the basis intervals have prime number frequency ratios up to some prime limit p) commas form a widely scattered cloud in which no obvious structure is discernible. But rebasing to a lattice in which the basis intervals are themselves of comma size has the effect of drawing a set of similar-sized commas into the region near the origin, where their interrelationships become apparent. The dual of such a lattice of commas is a lattice of equal temperaments (ETs), which provides a means of visualising the relationships between ETs and commas.&lt;br /&gt;
The theory behind this technique is set out below, illustrated for the 5-limit but extending in a straightforward way to any prime limit. An example of its application in the 5-limit can be viewed in this &lt;a href="/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx/587448909/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx/587448909/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx');"&gt;spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
The theory behind this technique is set out below, illustrated for the 5-limit but extending in a straightforward way to any prime limit. An example of its application in the 5-limit can be viewed in this &lt;a href="/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx/587448909/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx/587448909/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx');"&gt;spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; and this &lt;a href="/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29%203D.png/441925468/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29%203D.png" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29%203D.png/441925468/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29%203D.png');"&gt;image&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
A just interval &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;J&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is the product of a JI tuning vector and a monzo:&lt;br /&gt;
A just interval &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;J&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is the product of a JI tuning vector and a monzo:&lt;br /&gt;
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The standard monzos representing the intervals &lt;u&gt;2&lt;/u&gt;, &lt;u&gt;3&lt;/u&gt; and &lt;u&gt;5&lt;/u&gt;, which in the standard lattice are orthogonal, fold up under the transformation like the spokes of a collapsing umbrella until they lie almost in a straight line. Other simple intervals, being small integer combinations of these primitive intervals, also lie close to this line. At the same time smaller intervals, of a size and complexity commensurate with that of the basis commas, are pulled in radially and away from the JI zero plane to populate the space near the origin.&lt;br /&gt;
The standard monzos representing the intervals &lt;u&gt;2&lt;/u&gt;, &lt;u&gt;3&lt;/u&gt; and &lt;u&gt;5&lt;/u&gt;, which in the standard lattice are orthogonal, fold up under the transformation like the spokes of a collapsing umbrella until they lie almost in a straight line. Other simple intervals, being small integer combinations of these primitive intervals, also lie close to this line. At the same time smaller intervals, of a size and complexity commensurate with that of the basis commas, are pulled in radially and away from the JI zero plane to populate the space near the origin.&lt;br /&gt;
Viewed as a val, a rebased lattice point represents a tuning vector for an ET, and intervals in this ET (for a given monzo lattice point) are measured by distance in integer steps from a zero plane normal passing through the origin normal to the tuning vector. Since monzos for simple intervals now lie in a narrow cone of directions, their sizes in relation to the octave are approximated well by most vals, even if those vals have tuning vectors not closely aligned with the (rebased) JI tuning vector. The exceptions are those vals whose tuning vectors point nearly perpendicular to the octave monzo, and thus come close to tempering out the octave and other simple intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
Viewed as a val, a rebased lattice point represents a tuning vector for an ET, and intervals in this ET (for a given monzo lattice point) are measured by distance in integer steps from a zero plane normal passing through the origin normal to the tuning vector. Since monzos for simple intervals now lie in a narrow cone of directions, their sizes in relation to the octave are approximated well by most vals, even if those vals have tuning vectors not closely aligned with the (rebased) JI tuning vector. The exceptions are those vals whose tuning vectors point nearly perpendicular to the octave monzo, and thus come close to tempering out the octave and other simple intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
With a suitable choice of basis intervals the rebased lattice can provide a framework for cataloguing both commas and ETs. In the 5-limit the following basis set (represented here by its rebased tuning vector) proves useful and is illustrated in the linked &lt;a href="/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx/587448909/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('/file/view/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx/587448909/Comma%20lattice%20%28syntonic%2C%20schisma%2C%20kleisma%29.xlsx');"&gt;file&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
With a suitable choice of basis intervals the rebased lattice can provide a framework for cataloguing both commas and ETs. In the 5-limit the following basis set (represented here by its rebased tuning vector) proves useful and is illustrated in the linked files:&lt;br /&gt;
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