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The use of microtones in middle-eastern music is partly extremely subtle, as is demonstrated in a [[http://shumays.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=177745|podcast]] by arabic violin player Sami Abu Shumays: by his count, there can be 12 different notes within a half step.
The use of microtones in middle-eastern music is partly extremely subtle, as is demonstrated in a [[http://shumays.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=177745|podcast]] by arabic violin player Sami Abu Shumays: by his count, there can be 12 different notes within a half step.


There have been various endeavours, also in recent history, to establish a common tuning standard. A few of these are described in [[http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf|Ozan Yarman's dissertation]]. However, none of these endeavours have been really successful (at least not as successful as 12edo in the western music). [[24edo]] has found a certain dissemination, especially in the arabic world; but many consider it a bad compromise.
There have been various endeavours, also in recent history, to establish a common tuning standard. A few of these are described in a [[http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/34%27ten_79%27a.pdf|paper]] by Ozan Yarman. However, none of these endeavours have been really successful (at least not as successful as 12edo in the western music). [[24edo]] has found a certain dissemination, especially in the arabic world; but many consider it a bad compromise. Other equal temperaments that have been used are [[53edo]] and [[72edo]]. And even those (apart from getting impractical because of their high number of notes!) do not cover all details.


Ozan Yarman's proposal for a new tuning standard for maqam music is a 79-tone [[MOSScales|MOS]] subset of [[159edo]]. It is described in detail in his dissertation. A short description (quote of a posting on the yahoo tuning list) is [[79MOS 159edo|here]].</pre></div>
A system that covers many details to a satisfactorial degree is proposed in [[http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf|Ozan Yarman's dissertation]] (also summarized in the mentioned [[http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/34%27ten_79%27a.pdf|paper]] ): a 79-tone [[MOSScales|MOS]] subset of [[159edo]]. A short description (quote of a posting on the yahoo tuning list) is also [[79MOS 159edo|here]].
 
For practical purposes (from the point of number of notes), Ozan Yarman proposes [[34edo]] and [[41edo]] as acceptable compromises.</pre></div>
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The use of microtones in middle-eastern music is partly extremely subtle, as is demonstrated in a &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://shumays.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=177745" rel="nofollow"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt; by arabic violin player Sami Abu Shumays: by his count, there can be 12 different notes within a half step.&lt;br /&gt;
The use of microtones in middle-eastern music is partly extremely subtle, as is demonstrated in a &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://shumays.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=177745" rel="nofollow"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt; by arabic violin player Sami Abu Shumays: by his count, there can be 12 different notes within a half step.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been various endeavours, also in recent history, to establish a common tuning standard. A few of these are described in &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ozan Yarman's dissertation&lt;/a&gt;. However, none of these endeavours have been really successful (at least not as successful as 12edo in the western music). &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt; has found a certain dissemination, especially in the arabic world; but many consider it a bad compromise.&lt;br /&gt;
There have been various endeavours, also in recent history, to establish a common tuning standard. A few of these are described in a &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/34%27ten_79%27a.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt; by Ozan Yarman. However, none of these endeavours have been really successful (at least not as successful as 12edo in the western music). &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt; has found a certain dissemination, especially in the arabic world; but many consider it a bad compromise. Other equal temperaments that have been used are &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;. And even those (apart from getting impractical because of their high number of notes!) do not cover all details.&lt;br /&gt;
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A system that covers many details to a satisfactorial degree is proposed in &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ozan Yarman's dissertation&lt;/a&gt; (also summarized in the mentioned &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/34%27ten_79%27a.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt; ): a 79-tone &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;MOS&lt;/a&gt; subset of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/159edo"&gt;159edo&lt;/a&gt;. A short description (quote of a posting on the yahoo tuning list) is also &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/79MOS%20159edo"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ozan Yarman's proposal for a new tuning standard for maqam music is a 79-tone &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;MOS&lt;/a&gt; subset of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/159edo"&gt;159edo&lt;/a&gt;. It is described in detail in his dissertation. A short description (quote of a posting on the yahoo tuning list) is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/79MOS%20159edo"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
For practical purposes (from the point of number of notes), Ozan Yarman proposes &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo"&gt;34edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/41edo"&gt;41edo&lt;/a&gt; as acceptable compromises.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>